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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1002850" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>Regarding credit is the bank vs form, I think it is just one of many considerations but credit should not be dismissed. Take Big Joe, arguably he is not in form as he was injured and it would be unfair to hold that against him. Besides some lapses in defence, he has met the challenge internationally and I can be reasonably confident he could continue to do so. Not enough to displace our established wingers but enough that he could be on the wing for England if ours go with the Lions or during smaller games for example. The likes of Thorley we don't yet know how he will perform internationally so that is a small point separating them.</p><p></p><p>Why is this important? Alex Goode is why. His club form was always pretty good yet he consistently struggled at international level. If anything he was in debt with the bank when it came to internationals. That counts for something. Club form is what gets you a look in, international form is what keeps you there and your "credit" is basically your accumulated proof of international form. Over time you can obviously burn through those savings if you stop performing (see Binny).</p><p></p><p>I'd also point to Ben Morgan. He was decent at club level but always seemed to step up at international. To this day I still don't understand why he fell so badly out of favour but there you go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1002850, member: 56232"] Regarding credit is the bank vs form, I think it is just one of many considerations but credit should not be dismissed. Take Big Joe, arguably he is not in form as he was injured and it would be unfair to hold that against him. Besides some lapses in defence, he has met the challenge internationally and I can be reasonably confident he could continue to do so. Not enough to displace our established wingers but enough that he could be on the wing for England if ours go with the Lions or during smaller games for example. The likes of Thorley we don't yet know how he will perform internationally so that is a small point separating them. Why is this important? Alex Goode is why. His club form was always pretty good yet he consistently struggled at international level. If anything he was in debt with the bank when it came to internationals. That counts for something. Club form is what gets you a look in, international form is what keeps you there and your "credit" is basically your accumulated proof of international form. Over time you can obviously burn through those savings if you stop performing (see Binny). I'd also point to Ben Morgan. He was decent at club level but always seemed to step up at international. To this day I still don't understand why he fell so badly out of favour but there you go. [/QUOTE]
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