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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1003521" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>Whilst I can understand that argument, eventually it hits the wall that a team that is premiership winners, finalists in Europe and been pretty dominant in many of their games cannot merely be full of decent players playing to a system well. Teams with many recognised very good players who also have good systems would beat such a team but that rarely happens with Exeter. The thing that makes me question this particular line of reasoning is this is what many people said about England for ages. You could look at a time period and say statistically over that period England were one of the best teams and yet people would still turn around and a 6 Nations XV would contain basically no Englishmen, even as the supposedly superior players are getting beaten even on an individual level by the supposedly inferior players. </p><p></p><p>Also I wouldn't say Cole and Youngs were the best examples as both of their forms dropped off a cliff at the same time as Tigers form did. Some of what the Simmonds brothers do is individual brilliance and not going through a team process. Farrell comes across far more as a 10 who looks good in a good process but without actually much to make him stand out as a 10 individually. I cannot think of many times I've seen Farrell as an individual do something brilliant that led to a big advantage for the team rather than simply going through the motions at 10 but with a pretty high degree of accuracy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1003521, member: 56232"] Whilst I can understand that argument, eventually it hits the wall that a team that is premiership winners, finalists in Europe and been pretty dominant in many of their games cannot merely be full of decent players playing to a system well. Teams with many recognised very good players who also have good systems would beat such a team but that rarely happens with Exeter. The thing that makes me question this particular line of reasoning is this is what many people said about England for ages. You could look at a time period and say statistically over that period England were one of the best teams and yet people would still turn around and a 6 Nations XV would contain basically no Englishmen, even as the supposedly superior players are getting beaten even on an individual level by the supposedly inferior players. Also I wouldn't say Cole and Youngs were the best examples as both of their forms dropped off a cliff at the same time as Tigers form did. Some of what the Simmonds brothers do is individual brilliance and not going through a team process. Farrell comes across far more as a 10 who looks good in a good process but without actually much to make him stand out as a 10 individually. I cannot think of many times I've seen Farrell as an individual do something brilliant that led to a big advantage for the team rather than simply going through the motions at 10 but with a pretty high degree of accuracy. [/QUOTE]
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