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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 798900" data-attributes="member: 42330"><p>The Saxons improve no one and the games they play are wildly different to full tests. They were coached by Jon Callard until recently, how's that for pointless?</p><p></p><p>The four things I can see a player gaining from Saxons duty are</p><p></p><p>1) Exposure to the international touring duty (pointless for Ashton)</p><p>2) Getting to play with strangers in the England game plan (useful assuming the game plan is the same between the two groups)</p><p>3) The ability to make a positive impression on a member of the England coaching staff (invaluable if Hepher becomes backs/attack coach, not so much if he doesn't)</p><p>4) First dibs on going to the seniors if there's an injury (potentially invaluable if does happen, probably won't)</p><p></p><p>It's a real hard grind. I completely understand any player, particularly the senior ones, not wanting to be there.</p><p></p><p>But where I think the difference between my opinion, and a lot of other opinions, is that if the coach wants you there, you're there. If you want to play for England, don't say say no to the England coach. The only way into England is to take every single opportunity that comes, every half-opportunity and sniff, as it's really hard to get in for those on the outside. Which is how it should be. I fully understand anyone who doesn't want to keep doing that over and over... but if they don't, the door's over there.</p><p></p><p>Sure, if Ashton is really totally absolutely the outstanding English winger next AIs its likely it will be forgotten, but what's the odds on him being substantially better next season than he was this? This season didn't get him into the touring squad for Jones and now Rokoduguni, Wade and Lewington get the chance to press claims while Jones wonders whether Ashton really wants it, is humble enough to learn (remember how Yarde has great coachability) etc.etc. </p><p></p><p>Are people really telling me that if they were Eddie Jones they wouldn't hold this against Ashton?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peat, post: 798900, member: 42330"] The Saxons improve no one and the games they play are wildly different to full tests. They were coached by Jon Callard until recently, how's that for pointless? The four things I can see a player gaining from Saxons duty are 1) Exposure to the international touring duty (pointless for Ashton) 2) Getting to play with strangers in the England game plan (useful assuming the game plan is the same between the two groups) 3) The ability to make a positive impression on a member of the England coaching staff (invaluable if Hepher becomes backs/attack coach, not so much if he doesn't) 4) First dibs on going to the seniors if there's an injury (potentially invaluable if does happen, probably won't) It's a real hard grind. I completely understand any player, particularly the senior ones, not wanting to be there. But where I think the difference between my opinion, and a lot of other opinions, is that if the coach wants you there, you're there. If you want to play for England, don't say say no to the England coach. The only way into England is to take every single opportunity that comes, every half-opportunity and sniff, as it's really hard to get in for those on the outside. Which is how it should be. I fully understand anyone who doesn't want to keep doing that over and over... but if they don't, the door's over there. Sure, if Ashton is really totally absolutely the outstanding English winger next AIs its likely it will be forgotten, but what's the odds on him being substantially better next season than he was this? This season didn't get him into the touring squad for Jones and now Rokoduguni, Wade and Lewington get the chance to press claims while Jones wonders whether Ashton really wants it, is humble enough to learn (remember how Yarde has great coachability) etc.etc. Are people really telling me that if they were Eddie Jones they wouldn't hold this against Ashton? [/QUOTE]
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