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  1. SaintDean

    SaintDean Guest

    I heard on the local radio that Johno will be picking the team at lunch today.

    I was hearing that around 5 Saints playing could be making it into the team, but i think this is a bit of an exaggeration.

    Looking forward to it?
     
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  3. Daylightfire

    Daylightfire Guest

    Yep,, I'm a glutton for punishment :)

    Who knows we might be in for a surprise.
     
  4. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Daylightfire @ Jan 13 2010, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Doubt it :p


    I'm expecting the usual suspects (i.e the AI squad, with the players who were out with injuries back in, and the new guys back out)
    Not what i'd like to see, but quite likely to happen

    Five Saints could be right, though i think four is more likely: Hartley, Lawes, Foden and Geraghty/Ashton (don't think both, but one of those will be in i think, the other in the Saxons)

    I'm more interested than usual in the saxons squad, would like to see James Gaskell make it into there
     
  5. SaintDean

    SaintDean Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Olyy @ Jan 13 2010, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Doubt it :p


    I'm expecting the usual suspects (i.e the AI squad, with the players who were out with injuries back in, and the new guys back out)
    Not what i'd like to see, but quite likely to happen

    Five Saints could be right, though i think four is more likely: Hartley, Lawes, Foden and Geraghty/Ashton (don't think both, but one of those will be in i think, the other in the Saxons)

    I'm more interested than usual in the saxons squad, would like to see James Gaskell make it into there
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    I think its more of a Foden/Ashton decision than the one you suggested. I dont think Geraghty would get in although he did pretty much win us the match the other week when he came on.
     
  6. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SaintDean @ Jan 13 2010, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Doubt it :p


    I'm expecting the usual suspects (i.e the AI squad, with the players who were out with injuries back in, and the new guys back out)
    Not what i'd like to see, but quite likely to happen

    Five Saints could be right, though i think four is more likely: Hartley, Lawes, Foden and Geraghty/Ashton (don't think both, but one of those will be in i think, the other in the Saxons)

    I'm more interested than usual in the saxons squad, would like to see James Gaskell make it into there
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    I think its more of a Foden/Ashton decision than the one you suggested. I dont think Geraghty would get in although he did pretty much win us the match the other week when he came on.
    [/b][/quote]
    Good point,
    Geraghty didn't impress in an England shirt in the AIs (due to being played out of position), i think one of Foden/Ashton will almost deff. get in, as Johnson (hopefully) discovered, he needs more fullbacks in his squads, beacuse playing someone who doesn't play there doesn't work out well
     
  7. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    England have called up rugby league converts Chris Ashton and Shontayne Hape to their revised elite player squad for the forthcoming Six Nations.

    Northampton wing Ashton, 22, is top try scorer in the Premiership this season while Auckland-born Hape has impressed at centre since joining Bath in 2008.

    Northampton lock Courtney Lawes and full-back Ben Foden are also included.

    Fit-again Delon Armitage, Riki Flutey, Toby Flood, Nick Easter and Lee Mears return after missing the autumn Tests.

    More soon.
     
  8. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    England EPS -

    Forwards: Steffon Armitage (London Irish), Steve Borthwick (Saracens), Jordan Crane (Leicester Tigers), Tom Croft (Leicester Tigers), Louis Deacon (Leicester Tigers), Nick Easter (Harlequins), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Stade Francais), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Lee Mears (Bath Rugby), Lewis Moody (Leicester Tigers), Tim Payne (London Wasps), Simon Shaw (London Wasps), Andrew Sheridan (Sale Sharks), Steve Thompson (CA Brive), Julian White (Leicester Tigers), David Wilson (Bath Rugby).

    Backs: Delon Armitage (London Irish), Matt Banahan (Bath Rugby), Danny Care (Harlequins), Mark Cueto (Sale Sharks), Harry Ellis (Leicester Tigers), Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers), Ben Foden (Northampton Saints), Riki Flutey (CA Brive), Shontayne Hape (Bath Rugby), Dan Hipkiss (Leicester Tigers), Paul Hodgson (London Irish), Ugo Monye (Harlequins), Mathew Tait (Sale Sharks), Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon).
     
  9. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    From the BBC

    Hape, Ashton, Lawes, Flutey, Easter, Mears, Flood, Foden and Armitage anounced so far
     
  10. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    Payne picked over Cole =/

    Exactly as i expected, really. Just same old same old with a couple of new names thrown in (though Hape shouldn't be in there as he's already represented NZ, i know it's at League, but it should count)
     
  11. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    God knows what Ellis (can't get a look in at Leicester but earns a call up???), Hape( Who's pretty shite), Banahan (shown he's not up to it), Sheridan (injured) & Payne (crap) are doing there.

    Still, a by the numbers selection overall.
     
  12. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bullitt @ Jan 13 2010, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
     
  13. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    Sheridan will be fit by the third game apparently, but even so, he's had quite a while out, throwing his in at the deep end surely isn't the wisest idea. Then again, looking at the other props we've got on there, i suppose they really need him
     
  14. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    They're ignoring the likes of Flatman, Cole (who's in rude form) & Golding though with a look to select the same-old & injured again.
     
  15. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    If I were going to pic a 22 from that lot;

    1. Wilson
    2. Hartley
    3. White (a notable lack of tightheads in the squad)
    4. Shaw
    5. Lawes
    6. Croft
    7. Moody
    8. Easter
    9. Care
    10. Flood
    11. Cueto
    12. Flutey (I don't think he should be there, but he is so meh.)
    13. Tait (One last chance to impress)
    14. Ashton
    15. D Armitage

    16. Thompson
    17. Payne (Sheridan once fit)
    18. Deacon
    19. S Armitage
    20. Hodgson
    21. Hipkiss
    22. Foden
     
  16. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    Maybe Payne will break in two before the 6N and they can replace him with someone sensible



    Good squad, Mite,
    I'd have Haskell on the bench instead of Armitage, and Hodgson/Care switched over, but apart from that, that's our best
     
  17. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    ENGLAND SAXONS EPS
    FORWARDS
    David Attwood (Gloucester Rugby)
    Duncan Bell (Bath Rugby)
    George Chuter (Leicester Tigers)
    Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
    Alex Corbisiero (London Irish)
    Phil Dowson (Northampton Saints)
    Ben Kay (Leicester Tigers)
    Nick Kennedy (London Irish)
    Matthew Mullan (Worcester Warriors)
    David Paice (London Irish)
    Tom Rees (London Wasps)
    Chris Robshaw (Harlequins)
    Andy Saull (Saracens)
    George Skivington (London Wasps)
    Dan Ward-Smith (London Wasps)
    Rob Webber (London Wasps)
    Nick Wood (Gloucester Rugby)
    Ben Woods (Leicester Tigers)

    BACKS
    Chris Ashton (Northampton Saints)
    Brad Barritt (Saracens)
    Danny Cipriani (London Wasps
    Shane Geraghty (Northampton Saints)
    Charlie Hodgson (Sale Sharks)
    Stephen Myler (Northampton Saints)
    Olly Morgan (Gloucester Rugby)
    Paul Sackey (London Wasps)
    Joe Simpson (London Wasps)
    David Strettle (Harlequins)
    Dominic Waldouck (London Wasps)
    Richard Wigglesworth (Sale Sharks)
    Mickey Young (Newcastle Falcons)
     
  18. gingergenius

    gingergenius Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bullitt @ Jan 13 2010, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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    My what an inventive selection of props.

    Why is Tim Payne there? He's ****. He got absolutely destroyed by Coles last week, who is English, but not in the squad. Julian White and Sheridan are both injured, so that's a cop out of actually selecting anyone new at all until the last minute.

    What Johnson has done is taken the Autumn squad and made it bigger with injury returns and a few new faces. No one who deserved to be culled, like Deacon, Payne or Banahan, has been kicked out.

    What Johnson will pick, assuming everyone is fit:

    1. Sheridan
    2. Mears
    3. White
    4. Shaw
    5. Borthwick
    6. Croft/ Haskell
    7. Moody
    8. Easter
    9. Hodgson
    10. Wilkinson
    11. Monye
    12. Flutey
    13. Hipkiss
    14. Cueto
    15. Armitage

    on paper not a bad looking side. From the squad he's selected, I'd only change the fly half in that team, and move Wilson in at tighthead. However, Sheridan and White will be injured, which leaves Tim Payne playing prop, which will be a disaster when we play everyone apart from Ireland. And I bet we haven't seen the last of Deacon either.
     
  19. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Jan 13 2010, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Like you said, not an AWFUL side, could probably come 2nd/3rd by grinding out boring kicking games. Nothing exciting will happen though. Hopefully it'll be more like the side mite posted in the other thread
    It's a pity we don't have Italy first, as that's when the younger/less established players (Lawes, Ashton) will get decent game time, and Johnson can see how well it can work to have people like them playing.

    If Tait only gets 10mins game time, like in the AIs, i'll be sad :(
     
  20. Daylightfire

    Daylightfire Guest

    Am shocked by Paynes inclusion,,

    The only possible ray of light is that Johnno knows that one of Sheridan / White won't make it and is planning on calling up Cole as a replacement
     
  21. cyRil

    cyRil Guest

    Is 13. Armitage, 15. Foden a no-go?
     
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