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England v South Africa - 26/11/2022 - KO 4.30 GMT
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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1110527" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>By 2017 is when the results started going downhill, with 2018 being 5th in the 6 nations. We then had a decent world cup, scraped along for the year after and then dropped off a cliff worse than the one in 2018. I stand by my point, he has been riding off a squad he inherited that went downhill once he put his mark on it and a single game in the world cup. Can anyone point to a period outside these 2 instances where England have seriously looked dominant?</p><p></p><p>Eg here were 2 charts I had kept updated for the 6 nations, points scored and tries scored. The fainter line is a 4 year rolling average. Slightly simplistic but the basic idea is that the 4 year rolling average in the final year will reflect how they performed overall during their world cup cycle. If it goes up, the coach has been making a positive contribution, downwards a negative one. Notice with Jones when the trend line gets to 2017 each time, it goes down and keeps going down. Ie once it reaches the point where his time in charge makes up the majority of the average, it drops down and even the spike in 2019 isn't enough to change that. Jones is driving the team into the ground, this is not a one off but a trend.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]15557[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]15558[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1110527, member: 56232"] By 2017 is when the results started going downhill, with 2018 being 5th in the 6 nations. We then had a decent world cup, scraped along for the year after and then dropped off a cliff worse than the one in 2018. I stand by my point, he has been riding off a squad he inherited that went downhill once he put his mark on it and a single game in the world cup. Can anyone point to a period outside these 2 instances where England have seriously looked dominant? Eg here were 2 charts I had kept updated for the 6 nations, points scored and tries scored. The fainter line is a 4 year rolling average. Slightly simplistic but the basic idea is that the 4 year rolling average in the final year will reflect how they performed overall during their world cup cycle. If it goes up, the coach has been making a positive contribution, downwards a negative one. Notice with Jones when the trend line gets to 2017 each time, it goes down and keeps going down. Ie once it reaches the point where his time in charge makes up the majority of the average, it drops down and even the spike in 2019 isn't enough to change that. Jones is driving the team into the ground, this is not a one off but a trend. [ATTACH type="full" width="651px" alt="1669497377271.png"]15557[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="652px" alt="1669497386469.png"]15558[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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