England vs Australia

Discussion in 'International Test Matches' started by gingergenius, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. gingergenius

    gingergenius Guest

    England squad now named:

    Forwards: D Bell (Bath), S Borthwick (Saracens, capt), J Crane (Leicester), T Croft (Leicester), L Deacon (Leicester), D Hartley (Northampton), J Haskell (Stade Francais), C Lawes (Northampton), L Moody (Leicester), T Payne (Wasps), S Thompson (Brive), D Wilson (Bath).

    Backs: M Banahan (Bath), D Care (Harlequins), M Cueto (Sale Sharks), A Erinle (Biarritz), S Geraghty (Northampton), A Goode (Brive), D Hipkiss (Leicester), P Hodgson (London Irish), U Monye (Harlequins), J Wilkinson (Toulon).

    So the matchday lineup will probably be:

    1. Payne
    2. Hartley
    3. Wilson
    4. Deacon
    5. Borthwick ©
    6. Croft
    7. Moody
    8. Crane
    9. Care/ Hodgson
    10. Wilkinson
    11. Banahan
    12. Geraghty
    13. Hipkiss
    14. Cueto/ Monye
    15. Monye/ Cueto

    16. Thompson
    17. Bell
    18. Lawes
    19. Haskell
    20. Hodgson/ Care
    21. Goode
    22. Erinle

    Which means that debuts will likely go to Courtney Lawes and Ayoola Erinle. Also means that Erinle could conceivably make his on the wing should there be an injury there...

    All in all not a completely awful looking side. The front 5 is the most worrying, which is not what you'd normally say for England.
     
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  3. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    Part of me thinks we're in with a chance,
    But, really, i'm expecting an Aussie win. Hopefully we'll put up a big fight
    Also, i hope Lawes gets some game time, he's a great big hitter, so hopefully he can batter some of the aussies into submission :p

    Payne not too great, but we're pretty sparse on the prop front, so he'll have to do really, just johnson sticking with what he knows (despite what he knows being based on who he played with several years ago). Hopefully hartley can get under the skin of the oppositing 1-3 and force some errors or something,
    Despite having a, potentially, good set of backs, i reckon most of our points will come from kicking
     
  4. Infern0

    Infern0 Guest

    I don't think we can win. It would be good to beat them because certainly we have no chance against the All Blacks and it will be nice to beat at least one Tri-Nations team.

    However at the best of times an average Australian team is a 50/50 match for a good England team. Unless some youngster really comes through as a star for England we won't be able to beat them, you just need to compare man to man, and The Aussies are match fit and have gelled (even though they have been losing)

    I think Wilkinson being in the team is a huge plus, It's sad to say but I would rather have him than all 7 of the injured first teamers, the man makes such an enormous difference and should help us to avoid humiliation.
     
  5. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    I think England are going to win, by far. Australia are ****.
     
  6. DonBilly

    DonBilly Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Nov 4 2009, 06:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Wasn't it the only 3N side to defeat SA this season?
     
  7. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DonBilly @ Nov 4 2009, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Yeah, what's your point?
     
  8. Nickdnz

    Nickdnz Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Nov 4 2009, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Yeah, what's your point?
    [/b][/quote]
    One good game this season, and SA were hardly impressive.
     
  9. DonBilly

    DonBilly Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Nov 4 2009, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Yeah, what's your point?
    [/b][/quote]

    My point is that if they have been able to defeat the current best Rugby side they are not so **** and it may not be that easy for England to beat them by a big margin.
     
  10. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    Uh, ok. Well i think they are crap. Australia's players are crap, and they have no gameplan. England look to me like a much stronger team than Australia.
     
  11. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Nov 4 2009, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

    I'm not saying that you're wrong or anysuch but that's still a really funny comment.

    Edit: haha funny not the WTF type of funny.
     
  12. Daylightfire

    Daylightfire Guest

    To be honest I'm looking at a better display than the last AIs. A win would be nice but a more cohesive performance is vital.

    Looking at the match Squad I would be happy with :
    1. Payne
    2. Hartley
    3. Wilson
    4. Lawes
    5. Borthwick ©
    6. Croft
    7. Moody
    8. Crane
    9. Care
    10. Wilkinson
    11. Banahan
    12. Geraghty
    13. Hipkiss
    14. Monye
    15. Cueto

    16. Thompson
    17. Bell
    18. Deacon
    19. Haskell
    20. Hodgson
    21. Goode
    22. Erinle
     
  13. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    Rumour has it Hartley's pulled his hammy and is out of this one.

    As a side note; Why are people selecting Banahan?
     
  14. Prestwick

    Prestwick Guest

    I think big guy + speed = lots of people selecting him. Hey, it works for Ma'a Nonu and other huge backs...not so much Basturaad or whatever his name was though :huh:

    England team to face Australia!

    England team to face Australia: U Monye (Harlequins); M Cueto (Sale Sharks), D Hipkiss (Leicester), S Geraghty (Northampton), M Banahan (Bath); J Wilkinson (Toulon), D Care (Harlequins); T Payne (Wasps), S Thompson (Brive), D Wilson (Bath), L Deacon (Leicester), S Borthwick (Saracens, capt), T Croft (Leicester), L Moody (Leicester), J Crane (Leicester).

    Replacements: D Hartley (Northampton), D Bell (Bath), C Lawes (Northampton), J Haskell (Stade Francais), P Hodgson (London Irish), A Goode (Brive), A Erinle (Biarritz).

    Nice to see Thompson back although how well will he do?! Absolutely fascinating backline and I wonder how well Geraghty and Hipkiss will do. Interesting times ahead!
     
  15. bristol-iain

    bristol-iain Guest

    Official Sweepstake!!! Winner gets.....umm.....eternal smugness.

    How long until Jonny is taken off injured (blood replacement does not count)

    I'm going for 24 minutes
     
  16. Prestwick

    Prestwick Guest

    How long before Moody gets binned for hugging/tackling someone off the ball long after the whistle has blown?

    5 Minutes.
     
  17. Charles

    Charles Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Nov 4 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    He will come back nastier than ever...He is a tough nut.

    He's lost some weight and somebody somehow taught him to pass the ball !

    He'll be there for the 6N.

    On a side note I wouldn't mind seeing him tested at #8...
     
  18. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Nov 4 2009, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    The first England binning in that 22 will be Haskell.
     
  19. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

  20. stormer2010

    stormer2010 Guest

    Ironically, I think Aus have the better forwards and Eng the better looking backline although they haven't had time to get each other sorted out.

    What is the world coming to.

    (Although Englands' injuries up front as well as those to the Aus backline probably the main reason)

    Most interesting match-up; Wilkonson vs Giteau. Two of the top 10s with probably the most differing styles. If my back where against the wall, though, I would prefer Wilko by my side.

    That said, the lack of test matches together for this Eng squad and the fact that Aus has lead NZ at the break in 3 of their 4 (way too much 3N fixtures) match ups this season pushes me to pick Aus for the win. Wouldn't mind either way and wouldn't be surprised either way, though. Hmm, I'll be rooting for the SH as much as it hurts me to support the Aussies.
     
  21. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

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