England vs Barbarians

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  1. Teh Mite

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    England vs Barbarians
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    Assistant referees: Romain Poite, Pascal Gauzere
    Television match official: Bob Ockenden, David Matthews
    Assessor: Paul Bridgman, Ed Morrison
     
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    When will the England squad be announced?
    Wednesday?

    Forgot that this is the day after the GP Final, so those players won't be available. Wonder who'll captain with Borthwick and Moody not available, and Hartley out injured as well (they're the only club-captains in the squad aren't they?)
     
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    I think Easter has been mentioned as a possible captain, before. What about the prospect of Geraghty at fly-half, if Jonny fails his fitness test?
     
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    It's what I'd like to see, though i can imagine Hodgson starting with Geraghty on the bench
     
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    Rees is a a good bet for skipper if he's fit and picked.
     
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    Rees is in neither squad, has pulled out to continue rehab for his ongoing injury woes.

    If there are no Leicesterman, I'd pick:

    1. Flatman
    2. Mears
    3. Wilson
    4. Lawes
    5. Shaw
    6. Haskell
    7. Armitage
    8. Easter (c)
    9. Care
    10. Hodgson
    11. Banahan
    12. Barkley
    13. Tindall
    14. Ashton
    15. Foden

    16. Thompson
    17. Doran-Jones
    18. Palmer
    19. Ward-Smith
    20. Care
    21. Geraghty
    22. Tait
     
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    With the exception of Banahan, that's the team i'd pick as well (Cueto 11, Ashton 14), Wigglesworth on the bench as well, instead of Cares clone :p
    Though i can imagine Strettle getting into the BaaBaas squad, so maybe him and Ashton on the wings
     
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    I personally would pick Geraghty ahead of Hodgson in spite of form, because Geraghty has the potential to have an international career, whereas Hodgson is on his way out.
    However, should Wilkinson go out, I would pick Myler, Lamb and Goode ahead of both (not going to happen though is it?)
     
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    My baaad. started out with Youngs then realised he was playing on Saturday. Would pick Wiggleswoth over Simpson too.
     
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    I agree, however Charlie's not ancient, he's only as old as Dan Carter/a few years younger than Wilko, so not drawing a pension yet :p
     
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    Both Geraghty and Hodgson are presently low on confidence, so neither will be at their best no-matter what.

    As for the back 3, I liked the balance that Cueto offered with Foden and Ashton in France (remember that Cueto and Foden are hardly unfamiliar with each-other). I'd be pleased if England persevere with that combination then put, I dunno, JSD on the bench.
     
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    The team is probably going to be slightly experimental, as it was for the last Baa-Baas game, so we might see Ashton and Banahan on the wings.
     
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    Agreed,

    It's a pity that tigers are playing in the final/this game is so close, as it'd be a good oppurtunity to get Ben Youngs some decent game time

    Anyone know the Baabaas squad? It was supposed to be named on Monday, but i can't find it anywhere
     
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    ENGLAND TEAM TO PLAY BARBARIANS
    Friendly
    Twickenham
    Sunday, May 30th, 2010
    Kick off 5:00pm
    15 Ben Foden (Northampton Saints)
    14 Mark Cueto (Sale Sharks)
    13 Mike Tindall (Gloucester Rugby)
    12 Shontayne Hape (Bath Rugby)
    11 David Strettle (Harlequins)
    10 Charlie Hodgson (Sale Sharks)
    9 Danny Care (Harlequins)
    1 Jon Golding (Newcastle Falcons)
    2 Steve Thompson (CA Brive)
    3 Paul Doran-Jones (Gloucester Rugby)
    4 Dave Attwood (Gloucester Rugby)
    5 Tom Palmer (Stade Francais)
    6 James Haskell (Stade Francais)
    7 Steffon Armitage (London Irish)
    8 Nick Easter (Harlequins)(capt)

    Replacements
    16 Lee Mears (Bath Rugby)
    17 Tim Payne (London Wasps)
    18 Dan Ward-Smith (London Wasps)
    19 Joe Worsley (London Wasps)
    20 Joe Simpson (London Wasps)
    21 Olly Barkley (Bath Rugby)
    22 Mathew Tait (Sale Sharks)
     
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    I know, frustrating. I love the Baa Baas :)

    Various names I have heard include Jean-Baptiste Elisalde, Doug Howlett, Paul Warwick, Jean de Villiers, Alan Quinlan, Florian Frtiz, Byron Kelleher, Rodrigo Roncero, Martyn Williams, Casey Laulala, Xavier Rush, Jerome Thion, Benoit August, Sebastien Bruno, David Barnes and Paul Sackey. Should be enough to make a decent XV :)

    Just heard Fritz has been called up to the French squad, and question marks over De Villiers will be playing after joing the SA squad.

    1. Rodrigo Roncero
    2. Benoit August
    3. David Barnes
    4. Jerome Thion
    5. Alan Quinlan
    6. Rodney So'oailo
    7. George Smith
    8. Xavier Rush

    9. Byron Kelleher
    10. JB Elisalde
    11. Paul Sackey
    12. Paul Warwick
    13. Casey Laulala
    14. Doug Howlett
    15. Cedric Heymans

    Would be a lot easier with a full squad to pick from :) Beat England last year, here's to a repeat!
     
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    Hmm, mixed bag,
    Would prefer Hape not to be involved, but Payne not starting cancels out any negative in the squad
    Why Ward-Smith and Worsely both in the subs? Aren't they both backrowers? Would've made more sense to have replace Worsely with Lawes
     
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    I think the current idea is DWS is now a 2nd row.

    And as Borthwick isn't involved, they can't drop Worsley... Who would we be calling the one-dimensional, over-rated old git if he wasn't there! :lol:
     
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    All in all, it's a decent squad i reckon.
    Would've preferred Ashton to be involved, though maybe this is a sign that he doesn't need to prove himself, which is why they've given strettle a run out. Also would've preferred Barkley to start with Hape on the bench (or not there at all)
    How are Attwood and Golding? Can't really recall seeing/noticing them play. Glad to see Armitage get a run out as well, he's been great in the GP, and has been unlucky to miss out to moody.
    Surprised that Croft isn't named, but i suppose he'll be in the same category as Ward-Smith (back rower who can play lock at a push). Lawes should feel very hard done by as well, as he's a lock who can also play back row =/ (would've preferred those two as the subs instead of Ward-Smith/Worsely).
    Not sure why Payne got the nod over Flatman. Baths scrum was very impressive for the majority of their Semi, wheras Payne has never had a good scrum in as long as I can remember.


    Roll on Sunday! Hopefully Sackey does start because he's pretty naff.
     
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    Don't forget the Leicester players and Borthwick are excluded due to the GP final.
     
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    Ah yeah, forgot that's where Croft is.
    Wonder if Borthwick will get called up to the squad now that Sarries have declared him fit again =/
    Hopefully not
     
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