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[EOYT] France vs South Africa 23/11/13
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 607538" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>Agreed. Vermaak has a better pass, is quicker to get the ball cleared and is a danger around the fringes and his sniping runs can keep the opposition defense wary of shooting up too quickly. Pienaar supposedly is class but like you said, how many chnaces more wil he be given to show it?</p><p></p><p></p><p>8th man we have a couple of good options beyond Spies IMO although many of our better players are overseas. For instance Bernard le Roux who might jog out for France this weekend. Spies just hasn't produced in 4 years. Kankowski isn't a test player, neither is Daniel. These players I feel are blocking the production line but I am not too fussed; the talent is there, we must just back the youth. I'd like a guy like Philip van der Walt to come through but on hard surfaces to play too his strengths. There is no reason we can't play somone like Arno Botha at 8 which is where he played most of his rugby in any case. To surmise; we didn't have settled back-up to Spies before he got injured but look at how Vermeulen has stepped up given the chance. It'll happen for others as well.</p><p></p><p>At lock, I think we have the goods and depth as well even though there is an asterisk next to a few of the names; Etzebeth, Flip van der Merwe has been playing brilliantly this tour and one game in the RC. I am very happy to eat my words. Then there is Bakkies who is a very handy player to have around the fringes for depth and experience and young PS du Toit is just waiting to shine if you ask me. I'd be surprised if we had to look beyond these 4 but there are options; Andries Bekker, Gerhard Mostert, Juandre Kruger and Franco van der Merwe all capped and Lood de Jager a classy lock and young enough to still get a look in for the bokke if you ask me (he is extended family so I am a bit biased LOL)</p><p></p><p>Tighthead is my main concern beyond 9, yes. Malherbe has shown enough I think to warrant a couple of more chances when he is fit again. We know we have a solid scrummiger in Jannie du Plessis and I hope the rest due to injury does him well as he was becoming a liability in the loose. I do feel though that because we have been relying of JdP for so long that we feel we don't have back-up when we do in fact. We know Coenie is dynamite in the loose and this weekend will be as tough a test at TH for him as they come. If he succeeds there we are golden IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mujati is a class player but has said that he felt like he was "window dressing" with the Bokke. I don't know what his experiences was but its clear hhe didn't feel included and know he has been approached by Meyer but turned it down.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 607538, member: 39190"] Agreed. Vermaak has a better pass, is quicker to get the ball cleared and is a danger around the fringes and his sniping runs can keep the opposition defense wary of shooting up too quickly. Pienaar supposedly is class but like you said, how many chnaces more wil he be given to show it? 8th man we have a couple of good options beyond Spies IMO although many of our better players are overseas. For instance Bernard le Roux who might jog out for France this weekend. Spies just hasn't produced in 4 years. Kankowski isn't a test player, neither is Daniel. These players I feel are blocking the production line but I am not too fussed; the talent is there, we must just back the youth. I'd like a guy like Philip van der Walt to come through but on hard surfaces to play too his strengths. There is no reason we can't play somone like Arno Botha at 8 which is where he played most of his rugby in any case. To surmise; we didn't have settled back-up to Spies before he got injured but look at how Vermeulen has stepped up given the chance. It'll happen for others as well. At lock, I think we have the goods and depth as well even though there is an asterisk next to a few of the names; Etzebeth, Flip van der Merwe has been playing brilliantly this tour and one game in the RC. I am very happy to eat my words. Then there is Bakkies who is a very handy player to have around the fringes for depth and experience and young PS du Toit is just waiting to shine if you ask me. I'd be surprised if we had to look beyond these 4 but there are options; Andries Bekker, Gerhard Mostert, Juandre Kruger and Franco van der Merwe all capped and Lood de Jager a classy lock and young enough to still get a look in for the bokke if you ask me (he is extended family so I am a bit biased LOL) Tighthead is my main concern beyond 9, yes. Malherbe has shown enough I think to warrant a couple of more chances when he is fit again. We know we have a solid scrummiger in Jannie du Plessis and I hope the rest due to injury does him well as he was becoming a liability in the loose. I do feel though that because we have been relying of JdP for so long that we feel we don't have back-up when we do in fact. We know Coenie is dynamite in the loose and this weekend will be as tough a test at TH for him as they come. If he succeeds there we are golden IMO. Mujati is a class player but has said that he felt like he was "window dressing" with the Bokke. I don't know what his experiences was but its clear hhe didn't feel included and know he has been approached by Meyer but turned it down. [/QUOTE]
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