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[EOYT] Wales vs. South Africa 09/11/13
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 605127" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>My 2c</p><p></p><p><strong>Beast</strong> - difficult to judge the scrums band had a quietish game but quietly industrious TBF. <strong>5.5/10</strong></p><p><strong>Bismarck</strong> - the competition for the no.2 jersey has seen some great performances from both Bismarck and Strauss with Du Plessis making a huge impact for the Bokke. Bit quiet in the 2nd half though one has to give credit to the dragons. The 2 starting hookers and FdP are the MotM candidates IMO. <strong>8.5/10</strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong>Malherbe</strong> - again, the scrums were a mess but it felt like he held his own and even had his opposite's number as IMO Jenkins was the main culprit ITO collapsing the scrum. Missed a tackle or two (but still an improvement on D from JdP) but otherwise held his own in a good enough debut. I hope HM retains him so we can get a clearer picture and see if he can build on his performance; we've seen more industry from him at a lower level and I think he deserves a another chance to show if he can bring that into test rugby. Maybe if even off the bench behind Oosthuizen. <strong>4</strong>.<strong>5/10</strong></p><p><strong>Flip van der Merwe -</strong> I was the 1st one to be shouting "WTF!?!" when his name was listed to start ahead of both Bakkies Botha and PSdT while shifting Etzebeth out a place but I will admit he was the pick of the locks on the weekend. I still don't think he has had these performances consistently enough to warrant long term selection and has had his chances but he had a good, impactful game although as with the rest of the Boks had a quiet game after the opening 20. Solid in the line-out throughout the match<strong> 7/10</strong></p><p><strong>Eben Etzebeth </strong>- a quiet game for Etzebeth and one in which he has been outshone on defense by every other forward (Malherbe has the same tackle complete stat but made more tackles). His discipline looked a bit better but TBH I'd rather have him bump heads and get really stuck in than what we saw on Saturday. <strong>4/10</strong></p><p><strong>Francois Louw - </strong>had a very good game apart from that silly silly yellow card- what was that all about!?! He was his usual self on the deck and very solid on defense. I was dissappointed in his losing his cool though as I see/saw him as a long term captaincy option. We didn't concede points during his time off but it killed our momentum IMO and made us go into a 'containment' mindset rather than build on a solid start. <strong>4/10 (yes, I am being hard on ill discipline)</strong></p><p><strong>Willem Alberts - </strong>most tackles for SA and he does not just make a tackle but stops opposition momentum dead in its tracks. Wales contained him well with ball in hand but for his impact on defense alone he is my pick of the SA backrows. <strong>7/10</strong></p><p><strong>Duane Vermeulen - </strong>Vermeulen made the hard yards where the Welsh pack contained the big SA ball carriers very well overall. Solid if not spectacular and along with Alberts and Louw makes for a very industrious backrow for its size where all share the load.<strong> 6.5/10</strong></p><p><strong>Fourie du Preez -</strong>Superb. His superiority and impact over that of opposite Mike Philips was the difference in this match and I really think we'd have lost this match if we had another 9 on the field. He remains SA's MVP. <strong>9/10</strong></p><p><strong>Monre Steyn - </strong>Had a good game before going off. I am not giving him a rating as he hadn't even had a 1/4 of a game but I think I have to eat my words that I wanted Pat Lambie to start ahead of Steyn as we went from scoring a point a minute to NOT SCORING A SINGLE POINT AFTER!! (not counting Jaque Fourie's try here). Are we really in suchh deep shishht when looking at depth in the pivots beyond FdP and Steyn?!! </p><p><strong>Bryan Habana </strong>- oh, he could be in the run for MotM as well couldn't he! Showed his class and continues his fine form for SA! <strong>7.5/10</strong></p><p><strong>Jean de Villiers -</strong>I love him as a captain; he really is a great guy and while he does try to manage the ref, he does it in good humor and I belief in an enduring sort of way. Not his flashiest game but the Welsh dominated territory and our backs didn't have a ton of opportunity with the ball rarely going through the hands. Wether this is because of the opposition, Pat Lambie or directive from HM (who did indictae beforehand that we'll play differently than in the RC) I don't know. <strong>6/10</strong></p><p><strong>Jaque Fourie -</strong>had a very quiet game apart from the non-try but credit has to go for his doggedness in following up that kick and making the great off-load to FdP. The thing he brings though is solidity in defense and we were rarely in trouble out wide with the breaks in defense coming from the 10 and 12 channels. <strong>5.5/10</strong></p><p><strong>JP Pietersen -</strong> the outbacks had very little opportunity and in such a game you need either a game-changer like Habana or a tower in defense like Pietersen who was only outdone in the defense stats by 2 of the loose forwards. Along with the more creative Le Roux and Habana I like JPP bringing a bit of size and solidity to the back three particularly in tight games. We know he can be dangerous with ball in hand as well and is capable of making meters in the tight and standing his man under pressure at the back so even though he had a quiet game I am glad for his inclusion. <strong>5.5/10 </strong></p><p><strong>Pat Lambie -</strong> looked... limited. I feel sorry for the man as he has been shuffled about and messed with but he has never delivered and that probably has to be accepted now (by him and fans) with more than 60 minutes at 10 delivering nothing despite a number of good showings at lower levels. Steyn had more inpact with 1/4 of the time while Le Roux was a step up at 15 despite playing consevatively. A standard <strong>5/10</strong> </p><p></p><p><strong>Willie le Roux</strong> - the only sub with enough time and opportunity to judge as the others came on while SA was 'closing up shop'. Not his usual game but that has me almost more excited seeing that he can make an impact in a tight game as well and kicking well from hand and a solid defensive game to make up for last time out. Very satisfying and encouraging though it would be nice to see the complete package and consistency. I hope he gets an extended run at 15. <strong>6/10</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 605127, member: 39190"] My 2c [B]Beast[/B] - difficult to judge the scrums band had a quietish game but quietly industrious TBF. [B]5.5/10[/B] [B]Bismarck[/B] - the competition for the no.2 jersey has seen some great performances from both Bismarck and Strauss with Du Plessis making a huge impact for the Bokke. Bit quiet in the 2nd half though one has to give credit to the dragons. The 2 starting hookers and FdP are the MotM candidates IMO. [B]8.5/10 [/B][B]Malherbe[/B] - again, the scrums were a mess but it felt like he held his own and even had his opposite's number as IMO Jenkins was the main culprit ITO collapsing the scrum. Missed a tackle or two (but still an improvement on D from JdP) but otherwise held his own in a good enough debut. I hope HM retains him so we can get a clearer picture and see if he can build on his performance; we've seen more industry from him at a lower level and I think he deserves a another chance to show if he can bring that into test rugby. Maybe if even off the bench behind Oosthuizen. [B]4[/B].[B]5/10 Flip van der Merwe -[/B] I was the 1st one to be shouting "WTF!?!" when his name was listed to start ahead of both Bakkies Botha and PSdT while shifting Etzebeth out a place but I will admit he was the pick of the locks on the weekend. I still don't think he has had these performances consistently enough to warrant long term selection and has had his chances but he had a good, impactful game although as with the rest of the Boks had a quiet game after the opening 20. Solid in the line-out throughout the match[B] 7/10 Eben Etzebeth [/B]- a quiet game for Etzebeth and one in which he has been outshone on defense by every other forward (Malherbe has the same tackle complete stat but made more tackles). His discipline looked a bit better but TBH I'd rather have him bump heads and get really stuck in than what we saw on Saturday. [B]4/10 Francois Louw - [/B]had a very good game apart from that silly silly yellow card- what was that all about!?! He was his usual self on the deck and very solid on defense. I was dissappointed in his losing his cool though as I see/saw him as a long term captaincy option. We didn't concede points during his time off but it killed our momentum IMO and made us go into a 'containment' mindset rather than build on a solid start. [B]4/10 (yes, I am being hard on ill discipline) Willem Alberts - [/B]most tackles for SA and he does not just make a tackle but stops opposition momentum dead in its tracks. Wales contained him well with ball in hand but for his impact on defense alone he is my pick of the SA backrows. [B]7/10 Duane Vermeulen - [/B]Vermeulen made the hard yards where the Welsh pack contained the big SA ball carriers very well overall. Solid if not spectacular and along with Alberts and Louw makes for a very industrious backrow for its size where all share the load.[B] 6.5/10 Fourie du Preez -[/B]Superb. His superiority and impact over that of opposite Mike Philips was the difference in this match and I really think we'd have lost this match if we had another 9 on the field. He remains SA's MVP. [B]9/10 Monre Steyn - [/B]Had a good game before going off. I am not giving him a rating as he hadn't even had a 1/4 of a game but I think I have to eat my words that I wanted Pat Lambie to start ahead of Steyn as we went from scoring a point a minute to NOT SCORING A SINGLE POINT AFTER!! (not counting Jaque Fourie's try here). Are we really in suchh deep shishht when looking at depth in the pivots beyond FdP and Steyn?!! [B]Bryan Habana [/B]- oh, he could be in the run for MotM as well couldn't he! Showed his class and continues his fine form for SA! [B]7.5/10 Jean de Villiers -[/B]I love him as a captain; he really is a great guy and while he does try to manage the ref, he does it in good humor and I belief in an enduring sort of way. Not his flashiest game but the Welsh dominated territory and our backs didn't have a ton of opportunity with the ball rarely going through the hands. Wether this is because of the opposition, Pat Lambie or directive from HM (who did indictae beforehand that we'll play differently than in the RC) I don't know. [B]6/10 Jaque Fourie -[/B]had a very quiet game apart from the non-try but credit has to go for his doggedness in following up that kick and making the great off-load to FdP. The thing he brings though is solidity in defense and we were rarely in trouble out wide with the breaks in defense coming from the 10 and 12 channels. [B]5.5/10 JP Pietersen -[/B] the outbacks had very little opportunity and in such a game you need either a game-changer like Habana or a tower in defense like Pietersen who was only outdone in the defense stats by 2 of the loose forwards. Along with the more creative Le Roux and Habana I like JPP bringing a bit of size and solidity to the back three particularly in tight games. We know he can be dangerous with ball in hand as well and is capable of making meters in the tight and standing his man under pressure at the back so even though he had a quiet game I am glad for his inclusion. [B]5.5/10 Pat Lambie -[/B] looked... limited. I feel sorry for the man as he has been shuffled about and messed with but he has never delivered and that probably has to be accepted now (by him and fans) with more than 60 minutes at 10 delivering nothing despite a number of good showings at lower levels. Steyn had more inpact with 1/4 of the time while Le Roux was a step up at 15 despite playing consevatively. A standard [B]5/10[/B] [B]Willie le Roux[/B] - the only sub with enough time and opportunity to judge as the others came on while SA was 'closing up shop'. Not his usual game but that has me almost more excited seeing that he can make an impact in a tight game as well and kicking well from hand and a solid defensive game to make up for last time out. Very satisfying and encouraging though it would be nice to see the complete package and consistency. I hope he gets an extended run at 15. [B]6/10[/B] [/QUOTE]
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