European Cup during the Lions Tour - My idea.

Discussion in '2017 British & Irish Lions Tour' started by AlynDavies, Mar 18, 2008.

  1. AlynDavies

    AlynDavies Guest

    Has anyone else wondered if maybe it might be an idea for Rugby to copy Soccers idea and have a European Cup running during the two year interval from the World Cup?
    Basically when the Lions players are away on tour to the southern Hemisphere I think it might be an idea for the 6 Ntaions teams to each host a pool of 4 teams to let the developing european nations.
    If you took the World ranking or possibly the 6 Nations B and lower leagues as automatic qualifying youd have something like this:

    Pot A - 1 nation each onto pools 1-6, Each country to host 1 pool.

    Pot B - Highest 6 European nations on World rankings excluding host nations.
    Georgia - ranked 14
    Russia - ranked 16
    Romania - ranked 17
    Spain - ranked 21
    Portugal - ranked 22
    Germany - ranked 26

    Pot C - Nations below above Groups.
    Belgium - 28
    Moldova - 29
    Czeck Republic - 34
    Poland - 36
    Sweden - 39
    Croatia - 44

    Pot D - Nations below above Groups.
    Latvia 45
    Holland 46
    Switzerland 52
    Lithuania 55
    Denmark 59
    Hungary 62

    Basically you randomly select 1 nation from each Pot, and end up with something like this.

    Pool 1

    Pool 2

    Pool 3

    Pool 4

    Pool 5

    Pool 6

    I think this would give us something quite interesting while the Lions boys are away on tour and give the lower tier European nations a chance to have competitve rugby. Basically the Winner of each pool progresses and the best 2nd placed teams in 2 of the pools.

    What do you guys think?
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  3. So when do the players ever get a summer off? We should be looking to cut down the number of fixtures, not crank them up with pointless tournaments where lesser European nations would have cricket scores put on them.
  4. feicarsinn

    feicarsinn Guest

    yeah honestly i cant see the point of france putting 200 past denmark with a "C" team
  5. el_tk

    el_tk Guest

    The gap in standards is far too big. England's current U-20 team would probably comfortably beat every team in pot 3 and pot 4. Add in the concerns about player burnout and the fact that some of the Home Nations do take development tours to places like Japan while Lions Tours are on.
  6. Idris

    Idris Guest

    Getting developing nations into a tournament is a good idea but dont think that the big 6 should be involved.
  7. Thingimubob

    Thingimubob Guest

    wouldn't France just win it though?
    since the home nations best players are away with the Lions, then out of the 6 Nations, France would be the strongest. It's a good idea, but it'll just end up with a Six Nations team winning every time, and lot's of 100+ scores. Would be better to do a like tournament like this during the World Cup, for the really small teams like Germany who don't qualify for the World Cup. Yeah, and like el_tk said, lots of the 6 Nations do development tours while their top players are with the Lions, like I remember Wales going out to Canada and the USA while the 2005 Lions Tour was on.
  8. gunner2008

    gunner2008 Guest

    I Think that is real and it will lift popularity rugby in the world!!

    I Think that is real and it will lift popularity rugby in the world!!
    I would place constant contenders in one pool, for example Russia and Georgia and so on...
  9. rambler86

    rambler86 Guest


    I'm agree with other guys who said that there is an enormous gap between the first six nations and the other, and a match between france and denmark or Italy Switzerland give no possibility to grow up to both teams!

    Moreover, you must consider that rugby players needs to restore themselves by the season hard work!

    Perhaps an european trophy between the pool C-D national teams seems to be a solution, but depends on IRB.

  10. erwanseb

    erwanseb Guest

    A blindfolded french U20 team with hands tied at the back would still win against any opponent of pot C or D.

    This is competition would be way too unbalanced.

    Rugby can grow only through better and bigger club leagues that employ players from everywhere in numbers.

    A stronger pro D2 in France and 1st division in England as well as a strong professional italian league are the way forward.

    If you do not generate employement first, all this developments tours are useless.

    Financially viable club leagues are the best (and only) tool for rugby developments.
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