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<blockquote data-quote="ZeFrenchy" data-source="post: 416440" data-attributes="member: 47244"><p>The Argentine version of the story (the one I'm most familiar with, I'm not saying it's the right one) says that the British took it in the 1830's. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, at this point I really think there is no point in Argentina claiming them. </p><p></p><p>That being said, I think it could be educational to mention how the issue is taught in primary schools in Argentina, as I really think that their position is not "stupid", but just wrong.</p><p></p><p>In the XVIII century, there is a dispute of sovereignity between the UK and Spain.</p><p>In 1776 the British leave the islands, the Spanish do in 1806. </p><p>The British attempt to invade Buenos Aires twice between 1806 and 1807. This (among other things) is what created the concept of an Argentine nation which led to the independence wars there (and ultimately in the rest of South America) and that created the first feelings of tension with the British.</p><p>In 1820, an Argentine flag is raised and the islands are claimed.</p><p>In 1833, the UK invade the islands (I insist, this is how it is taught in schools in Argentina, don't blame me for the word "invasion")</p><p>1833-1982 British sovereignity, not much happens, but Argentina hold their claim.</p><p>1982 Argentina try to re-gain the Falkland, losing 400 men (Argentina was in the midst of a cruel dictatorship).</p><p></p><p></p><p>What I'm trying to show here is that it is not obvious that the Flakland "have always been British" and that it is a bit more complicated than what most people in the UK believe. I insist, I don't support the Argentine claim as, even if they were right, 180 years is way enough.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ZeFrenchy, post: 416440, member: 47244"] The Argentine version of the story (the one I'm most familiar with, I'm not saying it's the right one) says that the British took it in the 1830's. Anyway, at this point I really think there is no point in Argentina claiming them. That being said, I think it could be educational to mention how the issue is taught in primary schools in Argentina, as I really think that their position is not "stupid", but just wrong. In the XVIII century, there is a dispute of sovereignity between the UK and Spain. In 1776 the British leave the islands, the Spanish do in 1806. The British attempt to invade Buenos Aires twice between 1806 and 1807. This (among other things) is what created the concept of an Argentine nation which led to the independence wars there (and ultimately in the rest of South America) and that created the first feelings of tension with the British. In 1820, an Argentine flag is raised and the islands are claimed. In 1833, the UK invade the islands (I insist, this is how it is taught in schools in Argentina, don't blame me for the word "invasion") 1833-1982 British sovereignity, not much happens, but Argentina hold their claim. 1982 Argentina try to re-gain the Falkland, losing 400 men (Argentina was in the midst of a cruel dictatorship). What I'm trying to show here is that it is not obvious that the Flakland "have always been British" and that it is a bit more complicated than what most people in the UK believe. I insist, I don't support the Argentine claim as, even if they were right, 180 years is way enough. [/QUOTE]
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