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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 1014388" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>Good question. Let me elaborate on this. First, some context. This was a message from Cavani to a friend of his. </p><p>So let's talk about both. </p><p></p><p>Intent. </p><p>Did Cavani intent to negatively discriminate his friend in any way or form? Insult? Harm? Humiliate? No. No. No No. </p><p></p><p>Outcome</p><p>Did Cavani's friend felt discriminated, insulted, harmed or humiliated? No. No. No. No. </p><p></p><p>So what is the problem them? Why is this such a big deal? </p><p>In a galaxy far far away, someone who doesn't speak the bloody language these two people where communicating in, deemed it necessary to voice his or her opinion about a conversation he was not taking part of nor was the subject of. He found it offensive, even though he was unfamiliar with the context nor understood what the term meant. </p><p></p><p>To be honest, i don't think the FA could be more patronizing even if they wanted to.</p><p></p><p>It basically gives cart blanche to anyone, anywhere to claim to be offended by a conversation they don't even understand (nor where involved in, nor the subject of) and then cancel the people involved. </p><p></p><p>I dont like what you say? If i get enough people to claim to be offended, that's it, you're out. </p><p>**** that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First, it was clearly a conversation between two people as private individuals, in their language and using phrases that are almost symbiotic with being Uruguayan. Neither of them meant to represent nor represented anyone but themselves. Other than revealing private information, it's as personal as it gets. </p><p>Second, those standards that appear to be broken should be set out beforehand. What rule, exactly did he break? </p><p></p><p>What's next, tapping his phones and hacking his emails to see if his conversations and messages are deemed appropriate by the FA? </p><p>Is he allowed to use the word black? Is he allowed to eat black pudding or he should refrain from that too in case someone feels offended? </p><p></p><p>The FA basically told him that acting Uruguayan among Uruguayans while talking about Uruguans was racist, and punished him for it. </p><p>That in itself is discriminatory. </p><p></p><p>Let me ask you this: If a black football player called another black football player "****ah" in an amicable manner, would the FA intervene, call him a racist, and fine him 100K quid? </p><p>Think we all know the answer to that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 1014388, member: 55747"] Good question. Let me elaborate on this. First, some context. This was a message from Cavani to a friend of his. So let's talk about both. Intent. Did Cavani intent to negatively discriminate his friend in any way or form? Insult? Harm? Humiliate? No. No. No No. Outcome Did Cavani's friend felt discriminated, insulted, harmed or humiliated? No. No. No. No. So what is the problem them? Why is this such a big deal? In a galaxy far far away, someone who doesn't speak the bloody language these two people where communicating in, deemed it necessary to voice his or her opinion about a conversation he was not taking part of nor was the subject of. He found it offensive, even though he was unfamiliar with the context nor understood what the term meant. To be honest, i don't think the FA could be more patronizing even if they wanted to. It basically gives cart blanche to anyone, anywhere to claim to be offended by a conversation they don't even understand (nor where involved in, nor the subject of) and then cancel the people involved. I dont like what you say? If i get enough people to claim to be offended, that's it, you're out. **** that. First, it was clearly a conversation between two people as private individuals, in their language and using phrases that are almost symbiotic with being Uruguayan. Neither of them meant to represent nor represented anyone but themselves. Other than revealing private information, it's as personal as it gets. Second, those standards that appear to be broken should be set out beforehand. What rule, exactly did he break? What's next, tapping his phones and hacking his emails to see if his conversations and messages are deemed appropriate by the FA? Is he allowed to use the word black? Is he allowed to eat black pudding or he should refrain from that too in case someone feels offended? The FA basically told him that acting Uruguayan among Uruguayans while talking about Uruguans was racist, and punished him for it. That in itself is discriminatory. Let me ask you this: If a black football player called another black football player "****ah" in an amicable manner, would the FA intervene, call him a racist, and fine him 100K quid? Think we all know the answer to that. [/QUOTE]
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