Menu
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles and first posts only
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Help Support The Rugby Forum :
Forums
Other Stuff
The Clubhouse Bar
Game of Thrones Discussion [SPOILERS]
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="ncurd" data-source="post: 944523" data-attributes="member: 72205"><p>Right so now we can have discussion (sorry it just frustrates me when people vent and don't explain themselves).</p><p></p><p>So on the Night King, I 100% have never been interested in that plot in the books or TV show. I like Jon as a character as well as most Wall characters but yeah its always had a ring of fantasy trope I'm not really interested in.</p><p></p><p>As to it all being the same.....true but this is ultimately based on the War of the Roses for inspiration and that essentially ended in bigger all changing 1-2 generations of relative calm followed by more turmoil. Thats the politics of the age and the day and what the show tried to emphasise is more important. This is why Ned dies back in Season 1, why the red wedding occurs etc. because being a good guy and morally correct doesn't make you win. The guy with money and army wins.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the show was ever about changing the status quo it was about how brutal succession wars can actually be, how people vye their way to power then lose it and when the dust settles nothing really changes because nothing ever does. </p><p></p><p>The question is have you been watching a Fantasy Epic TV show which takes inspiration from history in which you have typical winners and losers or have you been watching a Historical Drama with Fantasy elements? I've always felt it was the latter.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Its also why I say there can't be a satisfactory 'ending' because history teaches us that doesn't really happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ncurd, post: 944523, member: 72205"] Right so now we can have discussion (sorry it just frustrates me when people vent and don't explain themselves). So on the Night King, I 100% have never been interested in that plot in the books or TV show. I like Jon as a character as well as most Wall characters but yeah its always had a ring of fantasy trope I'm not really interested in. As to it all being the same.....true but this is ultimately based on the War of the Roses for inspiration and that essentially ended in bigger all changing 1-2 generations of relative calm followed by more turmoil. Thats the politics of the age and the day and what the show tried to emphasise is more important. This is why Ned dies back in Season 1, why the red wedding occurs etc. because being a good guy and morally correct doesn't make you win. The guy with money and army wins. I don't think the show was ever about changing the status quo it was about how brutal succession wars can actually be, how people vye their way to power then lose it and when the dust settles nothing really changes because nothing ever does. The question is have you been watching a Fantasy Epic TV show which takes inspiration from history in which you have typical winners and losers or have you been watching a Historical Drama with Fantasy elements? I've always felt it was the latter. Its also why I say there can't be a satisfactory 'ending' because history teaches us that doesn't really happen. [/QUOTE]
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Other Stuff
The Clubhouse Bar
Game of Thrones Discussion [SPOILERS]
Top