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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 945436" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>Very disappointed with how this all ended and pretty much echo what others have said. I don't so much have a problem with what the ending was but the way it got there was disjointed and completely devoid of the interesting political battles of the earlier seasons. To put things in perspective, it took longer for Darth Vader to flip from being full on evil to redeemed than it took Daenerys to go the opposite way. Even if this was a film, that flip was rushed and rubbish. I could just about have accepted it if she was waiting for the bells and flipped because they didn't ring and then didn't hear them once she started the attack but the fact she started well after they started ringing made it completely stupid. Likewise Greywom becoming a complete arsehole by the end, same as Bronn. Randomly for 10 minutes is a complete arsehole to Jamie and Tyrion and then all back to normal. It seemed an utterly pointless and abrupt switch of character.</p><p></p><p>Tyrion and Varys both became idiots</p><p>Jon Snow became a "muh queen" moron whereas in earlier seasons he stood up against injustice very quickly</p><p>Daenerys went full nutter without any real transition</p><p>Euron was just a ******* waste of space</p><p></p><p>The other things was how inconsistent things were. In earlier seasons if scorpions killed dragons you could be pretty sure than in a following episode they would still be able to kill dragons, especially in larger numbers.</p><p></p><p>After the massive buildup the Night King ending was pathetic. Hardhome and the wall episodes were more in line with what I was expecting, a fighting retreat against seemingly impossible odds and then for some solution to involve Bran (as that is who the Night King apparently obsesses over). Instead Arya fired by **** knows what mechanism. The whole battle of winterfell, whilst visually impressive left me facepalming at the staggering tactical incompetence. I don't expect every little military detail to be true and proper but the stuff in that battle (and kings landings) was just so batshit insane it's inexcusable. Let's put our artillery OUTSIDE the walls and in front of the barricades and then fire 1 volley!? Let's also put our troops outside the walls and in front of the barricades with 1 choke point so we can trap our own men on the wrong side of the spikey things. No alternative for setting things on fire and then doing nothing whilst the army of the dead simply wait on the other side. No archers? Dothraki charging blindly into the enemy? Major plot armour. Whole thing was ******* mess. GoT used to be good precisely because main characters had little to no plot armour. Jon Snow meeting the NK and surrounded by the dead? Nah he survives. Tywin Lannister? Killed on the bog with a crossbow after shagging a prostitute.</p><p></p><p>Didn't really get any sense of closure and I'm surprised there would be much work for D&D after how royally they ****** it up.</p><p></p><p>Also making the king elected by a select group of major houses? That will TOTALLY bring more stability to the realm than hereditary kingship.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 945436, member: 56232"] Very disappointed with how this all ended and pretty much echo what others have said. I don't so much have a problem with what the ending was but the way it got there was disjointed and completely devoid of the interesting political battles of the earlier seasons. To put things in perspective, it took longer for Darth Vader to flip from being full on evil to redeemed than it took Daenerys to go the opposite way. Even if this was a film, that flip was rushed and rubbish. I could just about have accepted it if she was waiting for the bells and flipped because they didn't ring and then didn't hear them once she started the attack but the fact she started well after they started ringing made it completely stupid. Likewise Greywom becoming a complete arsehole by the end, same as Bronn. Randomly for 10 minutes is a complete arsehole to Jamie and Tyrion and then all back to normal. It seemed an utterly pointless and abrupt switch of character. Tyrion and Varys both became idiots Jon Snow became a "muh queen" moron whereas in earlier seasons he stood up against injustice very quickly Daenerys went full nutter without any real transition Euron was just a ******* waste of space The other things was how inconsistent things were. In earlier seasons if scorpions killed dragons you could be pretty sure than in a following episode they would still be able to kill dragons, especially in larger numbers. After the massive buildup the Night King ending was pathetic. Hardhome and the wall episodes were more in line with what I was expecting, a fighting retreat against seemingly impossible odds and then for some solution to involve Bran (as that is who the Night King apparently obsesses over). Instead Arya fired by **** knows what mechanism. The whole battle of winterfell, whilst visually impressive left me facepalming at the staggering tactical incompetence. I don't expect every little military detail to be true and proper but the stuff in that battle (and kings landings) was just so batshit insane it's inexcusable. Let's put our artillery OUTSIDE the walls and in front of the barricades and then fire 1 volley!? Let's also put our troops outside the walls and in front of the barricades with 1 choke point so we can trap our own men on the wrong side of the spikey things. No alternative for setting things on fire and then doing nothing whilst the army of the dead simply wait on the other side. No archers? Dothraki charging blindly into the enemy? Major plot armour. Whole thing was ******* mess. GoT used to be good precisely because main characters had little to no plot armour. Jon Snow meeting the NK and surrounded by the dead? Nah he survives. Tywin Lannister? Killed on the bog with a crossbow after shagging a prostitute. Didn't really get any sense of closure and I'm surprised there would be much work for D&D after how royally they ****** it up. Also making the king elected by a select group of major houses? That will TOTALLY bring more stability to the realm than hereditary kingship. [/QUOTE]
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