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<blockquote data-quote="shtove" data-source="post: 295765"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Dec 28 2009, 01:48 AM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=429140" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>I can debate with that.</p><p></p><p>Substitute black for gay, and I will travel a fair distance down the road because black people are people. Gays are no different from anyone else, except they call themselves "gay" and think everyone should accept this logic even as it disappears up its own arse. </p><p></p><p>Criminalising slave ownership (applies to all races, by the way) snapped the prison lock, but the people were still in terrible conditions. How do you give them a fair chance? A blanket from nanny state? Or getting the state to step aside and let them follow their own path? I don't know. It's probably as tricky as parenting, with lots of discretion used on the way and an ultimate goal of letting go. The Irish have a similar (not same) experience.</p><p></p><p>But what you call gay, I call play acting. It's not unusual or fundamental (oo err), it's about choice. Every man has a choice every minute of the day what to do with his ... errrrm ... sexuality. Let's call it his dick. And a man should not lose control. If he does lose control, he's avoiding responsibility, possibly to the extent of criminality where he crushes the consent of others. But with responsibility, he may do whatever he desires including acts that used to be prosecuted (including man on woman).</p><p></p><p>Those are clear boundaries. But here comes a political movement that says - Noooo, it's all about sexuality - a cult of the penis - and everyone is wrong if they disagree. No balance, no equality, no sense, no humanity. That is anti-political because it results in the state telling people what to think, what to do. A power grab. Or reach-around.</p><p></p><p>Loss of dick control is not the root of this nonsense - it's a camouflage for socialism, which is always and everywhere about getting decent people to pay the bills of florid self-servers.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Little Richardjohn @ Dec 28 2009, 10:49 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=429168" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p>Can I have my income tax back as well? Give me a choice - I don't want to pitch in to your kitty. Miaow!</p><p></p><p>OK. Ignore everything I say and respond with sniggerthon, neanderthal, moron blah blah blah fear, loathing etc. Reactionary? A person who reacts. Homophobe? With an irrational fear of ... the same. Labels used by students who have yet to learn to think for themselves and reckon Gordo is bit ugly but still cool.</p><p></p><p>I don't care what you do with your dick. Stuff it in your granny's old tights and pretend to be a bankrobber. "I always knew that child was queer!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shtove, post: 295765"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Dec 28 2009, 01:48 AM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=429140']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> I can debate with that. Substitute black for gay, and I will travel a fair distance down the road because black people are people. Gays are no different from anyone else, except they call themselves "gay" and think everyone should accept this logic even as it disappears up its own arse. Criminalising slave ownership (applies to all races, by the way) snapped the prison lock, but the people were still in terrible conditions. How do you give them a fair chance? A blanket from nanny state? Or getting the state to step aside and let them follow their own path? I don't know. It's probably as tricky as parenting, with lots of discretion used on the way and an ultimate goal of letting go. The Irish have a similar (not same) experience. But what you call gay, I call play acting. It's not unusual or fundamental (oo err), it's about choice. Every man has a choice every minute of the day what to do with his ... errrrm ... sexuality. Let's call it his dick. And a man should not lose control. If he does lose control, he's avoiding responsibility, possibly to the extent of criminality where he crushes the consent of others. But with responsibility, he may do whatever he desires including acts that used to be prosecuted (including man on woman). Those are clear boundaries. But here comes a political movement that says - Noooo, it's all about sexuality - a cult of the penis - and everyone is wrong if they disagree. No balance, no equality, no sense, no humanity. That is anti-political because it results in the state telling people what to think, what to do. A power grab. Or reach-around. Loss of dick control is not the root of this nonsense - it's a camouflage for socialism, which is always and everywhere about getting decent people to pay the bills of florid self-servers. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Little Richardjohn @ Dec 28 2009, 10:49 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=429168']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Can I have my income tax back as well? Give me a choice - I don't want to pitch in to your kitty. Miaow! OK. Ignore everything I say and respond with sniggerthon, neanderthal, moron blah blah blah fear, loathing etc. Reactionary? A person who reacts. Homophobe? With an irrational fear of ... the same. Labels used by students who have yet to learn to think for themselves and reckon Gordo is bit ugly but still cool. I don't care what you do with your dick. Stuff it in your granny's old tights and pretend to be a bankrobber. "I always knew that child was queer!" [/QUOTE]
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