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GATLAND Is the leading Contender for Lions Coach.
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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 791379" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>It would probably increase consistently over time, forgetting all that ethos and camaraderie bull**** all the Tour really brings is injuries, Cian Healy hasn't been the same after being injured in a game against some Aussie club side playing for a supposedly super-international side, and disrupts the national sides themselves. Two years out from a World Cup should be prime time for building your team and testing them against the best, not losing them to a tour that is four weeks too long and causes players to be over played months down the line. </p><p></p><p>Also, if a tour to Argentina is organised NH sides should just leave the World Cup altogether, there's already a lack of ambition shown by thinking we have to team up to beat the other teams, we should be trying to get better than Argentina as nations rather than collectively worse. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Wouldn't be the worst thing, both the teams are dated and don't belong in the modern game. Traditionalists will want to keep it in some form though so leave it like this. </p><p></p><p>Fair enough but I really don't see the need when the negatives outweigh the positives. It's a good tour and can be entertaining and it was certainly needed in the past but now it's just out of place. The majority of Ireland is no longer British, like it was when the tour was formed, and has no need or reason to represent a team along with Britain other than the history of this tour and now GBNI can play sevens in the Olympics together so you have those players representing four nations who do have a reason to play together. I think the history of it has to be thrown aside and let everyone realise what's best for them as their own nation, this tour isn't what they'd come up with. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, I posted that first comment after a few pints, not something I usually like putting up here because it's a very unpopular opinion so a I don't particularly want to say anymore. I don't value the history and ethos of the tour so unless there was a convincing argument that the tour is good for the Irish rugby team I won't agree.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 791379, member: 45598"] It would probably increase consistently over time, forgetting all that ethos and camaraderie bull**** all the Tour really brings is injuries, Cian Healy hasn't been the same after being injured in a game against some Aussie club side playing for a supposedly super-international side, and disrupts the national sides themselves. Two years out from a World Cup should be prime time for building your team and testing them against the best, not losing them to a tour that is four weeks too long and causes players to be over played months down the line. Also, if a tour to Argentina is organised NH sides should just leave the World Cup altogether, there's already a lack of ambition shown by thinking we have to team up to beat the other teams, we should be trying to get better than Argentina as nations rather than collectively worse. Wouldn't be the worst thing, both the teams are dated and don't belong in the modern game. Traditionalists will want to keep it in some form though so leave it like this. Fair enough but I really don't see the need when the negatives outweigh the positives. It's a good tour and can be entertaining and it was certainly needed in the past but now it's just out of place. The majority of Ireland is no longer British, like it was when the tour was formed, and has no need or reason to represent a team along with Britain other than the history of this tour and now GBNI can play sevens in the Olympics together so you have those players representing four nations who do have a reason to play together. I think the history of it has to be thrown aside and let everyone realise what's best for them as their own nation, this tour isn't what they'd come up with. Anyway, I posted that first comment after a few pints, not something I usually like putting up here because it's a very unpopular opinion so a I don't particularly want to say anymore. I don't value the history and ethos of the tour so unless there was a convincing argument that the tour is good for the Irish rugby team I won't agree. [/QUOTE]
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