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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 1126498" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>I had this debate with [USER=73592]@Which Tyler[/USER] who is very against team achievements when judging a player (we were talking about Russell). I'm somewhere in the middle. </p><p></p><p>Outside of world cups Sexton is the most decorated 10 to ever play the game after Dan Carter, Wilkinson's claim of being better is his three world cup knockout games in 03, good claim but not enough for me. As for the era it's Sexton v Barrett, Barrett has been at the helm as his team has gone from best in the world with breathing space to as low as 5th. Sexton has taken a team that usually lingered around 5-8 to the best team in the world, twice (2018 and the last 9 months) always as the key player for the team. He's not only the best 10 of the post Carter era, he's the best back and probably the best player although Etzebeth has a shout too.</p><p></p><p>Smith v BOD isn't a debate as far as I'm concerned, BOD was a better rugby player, Smith was a vital cog in the best team to ever play the game but Smith, Carter, Nonu and a whole host of back three players were just as good or better players than him. He achieved a whole lot of nothing at club level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 1126498, member: 45598"] I had this debate with [USER=73592]@Which Tyler[/USER] who is very against team achievements when judging a player (we were talking about Russell). I'm somewhere in the middle. Outside of world cups Sexton is the most decorated 10 to ever play the game after Dan Carter, Wilkinson's claim of being better is his three world cup knockout games in 03, good claim but not enough for me. As for the era it's Sexton v Barrett, Barrett has been at the helm as his team has gone from best in the world with breathing space to as low as 5th. Sexton has taken a team that usually lingered around 5-8 to the best team in the world, twice (2018 and the last 9 months) always as the key player for the team. He's not only the best 10 of the post Carter era, he's the best back and probably the best player although Etzebeth has a shout too. Smith v BOD isn't a debate as far as I'm concerned, BOD was a better rugby player, Smith was a vital cog in the best team to ever play the game but Smith, Carter, Nonu and a whole host of back three players were just as good or better players than him. He achieved a whole lot of nothing at club level. [/QUOTE]
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