Guess who the Ref for NZ v Australia is!

Discussion in 'Tri Nations 2009-2011' started by Jethro, Sep 10, 2009.

  1. Jethro

    Jethro Guest

    In another example of the IRB being total cocks they have awarded the games to Barnes, the least liked Ref in New Zealand. And for those who think the prick has improved, re-watch Oz v South Africa ruck and mauls, the english whistle blower has no bloody idea what he is doing.

    Thankfully in his latest shambolic performance the result of the match wasn't effected. Expect some crowd reaction at the cake tin. :p If this is a close game and the Aussie win via a forward pass, Barnes will need a police escort out of the country.

    Personally I blame Paddy for throwing a work expeirance kid into much too high profile games at this stage of his career.
     
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  3. cyRil

    cyRil Guest

    You guys need to get a grip.
     
  4. shtove

    shtove Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cyRil of Ospreylia @ Sep 11 2009, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    ... on Barnes' scrawny neck.
     
  5. jawmalawm24

    jawmalawm24 Guest

    I think that's what Paddies probably trying to say is that we need to get a grip which is true but still it remains that the fact of the matter is Wayne Barnes is not well liked here in New Zealand whether he was right or wrong it won't matter to the crowd they'll give him s#@! for the rest of his career.

    It's just like B.O.D and Umaga Ireland will never get over it they'll go on about til days end and we'll continue to give Barnes a ear full til his days end too.
     
  6. Juggernaut

    Juggernaut Guest

    We might need to ask that cuz who bashed up Mathieu Bastareaud to do the same on Barnes....

    No! wait....the Froggies love him. Damn!!
     
  7. smartcooky

    smartcooky Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jethro @ Sep 11 2009, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

    I don't where you found this out, because the iRB 2009 Appointments schedule says:

    19-Sep 2009
    New Zealand v Australia
    Westpac Stadium, Wellington
    Referee.....C. Joubert
    AR1..........J. Kaplan
    AR2.........W. Barnes
    TMO........S. Veldsman
     
  8. smartcooky

    smartcooky Guest

  9. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jethro @ Sep 10 2009, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    What're you blabbering about?

    Barnes did an excellent job in the Aus v SA game...

    I would prefer to have him over Joubert.
     
  10. Jethro

    Jethro Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (smartcooky @ Sep 11 2009, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Thanks cooky :bravo: think you are right :p


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fushitsusha @ Sep 11 2009, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    What're you blabbering about?

    Barnes did an excellent job in the Aus v SA game...

    I would prefer to have him over Joubert.
    [/b][/quote]

    Barnes did an excellent job if we forget the rules about players on their feet at ruck and mauls and joining on the side. He didn't cost the Bokke the game imho but would you really want this guy reffing a close one?
     
  11. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jethro @ Sep 11 2009, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Thanks cooky :bravo: think you are right :p


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fushitsusha @ Sep 11 2009, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    What're you blabbering about?

    Barnes did an excellent job in the Aus v SA game...

    I would prefer to have him over Joubert.
    [/b][/quote]

    Barnes did an excellent job if we forget the rules about players on their feet at ruck and mauls and joining on the side. He didn't cost the Bokke the game imho but would you really want this guy reffing a close one?
    [/b][/quote]

    The only problem with Barnes' game is that he didn't allow advantage to play on long enough in a couple of instances... otherwise his management of the game was excellent and he kept in good communication with the players...
     
  12. Nickdnz

    Nickdnz Guest

    Lolz, says all the Australians.
     
  13. Steve-o

    Steve-o Guest

    Exactly :lol:
     
  14. Jethro

    Jethro Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nickdnz @ Sep 11 2009, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Used to coming in on the side over here ;) There's a joke in there somewhere.
     
  15. polonius

    polonius Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jawmalawm24 @ Sep 11 2009, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    The collapse of respect for New Zealand rugby after the spear tackle incident wasn't just restricted to Ireland. There are plenty of English, Scots and Welsh who will never think highly of the All Blacks again.

    As for Wayne Barnes, he is a perfectly capable referee; most times he gets it right, but sometimes he gets it wrong - just like all the others. As for the forward pass incident, it was just as much the touch judge's call as it was his.
     
  16. TRUE LEGND

    TRUE LEGND Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (polonius @ Sep 11 2009, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Then we as kiwi's would say "WHO GIVES A RATS ARSE" :p :p
     
  17. smartcooky

    smartcooky Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TRUE LEGND @ Sep 11 2009, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Then we as kiwi's would say "WHO GIVES A RATS ARSE" :p :p
    [/b][/quote]

    Almost True Legend, almost

    The correct term is

    "WHO GIVES A FAT RATS ARSE" :bleh!:
     
  18. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    I'll never forgive Barnes for missing that forward pass.




































    McAlistair was at least 2 yards ahead of his team mate when he received the ball...
     
  19. Gavin

    Gavin Guest

    I personally like Barnes, not because I support Australia, but the way he speaks to the players I like. Most players he would call by their first name and seem friendly. Barnes does make mistakes, like that forward pass he missed in the 2007 World Cup, but he doesn't make as much as other guys. He is also very young, and will be about for a very long time.
     
  20. smartcooky

    smartcooky Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (polonius @ Sep 11 2009, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    With reference to Saturday's game....

    1. Scrum management
    I thought Barnes' scrum management was average at best. He could have got on top of things a lot earlier. He certainly is capable of setting his stall out early for offences in open play (e.g. binning Nick DeLuca at 3 minutes in NZ v Scotland for kicking the ball away on the ground) so I wonder why he seems reluctant to do so in set pieces.

    2. Positioning
    I am still not convinced that he positions himself well. He is certainly different in that regard from any other elite referee I watch. He seems to mostly set himself in position to watch everything the attack does at ruck and maul, often getting himself behind the attacking ruck. IMO this is no-mans land; not only is it impossible to see what the defence is doing, it doesn't allow him to quickly check either. Consequently, his focus is more on the attack, and he has a tendency to penalise attacking sides for technical infringements, rather than pinging the more important stuff, the offsides around the fringes of the ruck & maul.

    3. Tunnel Vision
    Barnes' appear to referee what is in front of him... as in DIRECTLY in front of him, and doesn't see a lot of the peripheral stuff, which is oftentimes more material than what he is looking at. For example he often penalises attacking sides at ruck for players going off their feet when they have already won the ball (immaterial) but he misses the the defender coming in at the side, or the players standing off at the side a metre ahead of the offside line.


    4. Speed around the park
    By international standards, Barnes is a bit slow. I don't think that is necessarily down to fitness; some people, no matter how fit they are, simply don't have the leg speed to run quickly. Barnes often further behind the play that I would like. Anyway, he will be tested in this soon because he has been invited to referee an Air New Zealand Cup match later this month.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport...gton-Lions-game

    The game they have given him is Wellington v Southland. Both these teams, especially Wellington, have built a recent reputation for running the ball from anywhere, so it will be interesting to see if Barnes can keep up, or whether he slows the game down.
     
  21. cyRil

    cyRil Guest

    I was at the Mill for the game and sat behind one of the goalposts, so I've never actually seen the forward pass! :p

    It is true that everyone accepts now that NZ will get away with almost anything, I've always found it hilarious and so ironic that they've never let up about this forward pass.
     
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