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<blockquote data-quote="RC" data-source="post: 228396"><p>Ouch, ok i can't just let this argument go when Charles belittles the Beatles as something anyone could have done.</p><p>The Beatles were amazing. They started off with a sound that millions loved, millions adored it and bought it in their droves.</p><p>Talent #1: They made cracking singles.</p><p>They didn't just have a couple of hits and stick it on a poor album (see The Kinks or The Hollies). </p><p>Talent #2: They made amazing albums. </p><p>Constantly the albums - just like the singles reached number 1, broke records and filled the hunger that the public were looking for.</p><p>Talent #3: They progressed as musicians, whether through drugs or just general learning over the years...but the kept on making hits that loads of people love.</p><p>I accept that there are millions who don't like the Beatles there are also more fans in the world for this group than most any other artists (barr Elvis).</p><p>You can argue about musical ability and talent, but the likes of Hendrix and Coultrane just didn't have what it took to make number 1 after number 1 singles and albums. Whatever you argue for the likes of the previously mentioned artists (some of whom i love, some of whom i admit i've never heard) you can't deny that the beatles didn't do it brilliantly for the general public.</p><p></p><p>Overrated? The records would argue with that as would their millions of fans and you've not given us an example of who is better than the beatles.</p><p>Wairarapa Cullen gave Pink Floyd and The Who as bands that are better than The Beatles, but with this you've got to argue the definition "better". </p><p>You can talk about binary music all you want, but you know that when you start talking like that your argument becomes slightly esoteric and then of course means nothing to no-one. My mum wouldn accept if you told her that Beatles music is binary, but if then asked to listen to the likes of Hendrix she wouldn't be able to tell you here nor there what was going on.</p><p></p><p>To say that they're not "proper musicians" defies the definition of "musician" as stated by the oxford dictionary.</p><p>Now of course i'm putting up a fight because i like the beatles so much, but i really can't see where i'm going wrong when they wrote their own music, they sold millions of singles and albums, they hit number 1 30 times, was it?</p><p>I can't argue with a legendary status like that personally.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RC, post: 228396"] Ouch, ok i can't just let this argument go when Charles belittles the Beatles as something anyone could have done. The Beatles were amazing. They started off with a sound that millions loved, millions adored it and bought it in their droves. Talent #1: They made cracking singles. They didn't just have a couple of hits and stick it on a poor album (see The Kinks or The Hollies). Talent #2: They made amazing albums. Constantly the albums - just like the singles reached number 1, broke records and filled the hunger that the public were looking for. Talent #3: They progressed as musicians, whether through drugs or just general learning over the years...but the kept on making hits that loads of people love. I accept that there are millions who don't like the Beatles there are also more fans in the world for this group than most any other artists (barr Elvis). You can argue about musical ability and talent, but the likes of Hendrix and Coultrane just didn't have what it took to make number 1 after number 1 singles and albums. Whatever you argue for the likes of the previously mentioned artists (some of whom i love, some of whom i admit i've never heard) you can't deny that the beatles didn't do it brilliantly for the general public. Overrated? The records would argue with that as would their millions of fans and you've not given us an example of who is better than the beatles. Wairarapa Cullen gave Pink Floyd and The Who as bands that are better than The Beatles, but with this you've got to argue the definition "better". You can talk about binary music all you want, but you know that when you start talking like that your argument becomes slightly esoteric and then of course means nothing to no-one. My mum wouldn accept if you told her that Beatles music is binary, but if then asked to listen to the likes of Hendrix she wouldn't be able to tell you here nor there what was going on. To say that they're not "proper musicians" defies the definition of "musician" as stated by the oxford dictionary. Now of course i'm putting up a fight because i like the beatles so much, but i really can't see where i'm going wrong when they wrote their own music, they sold millions of singles and albums, they hit number 1 30 times, was it? I can't argue with a legendary status like that personally. [/QUOTE]
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