Hardmen of Sport

Discussion in 'General Rugby Union' started by wygy, May 11, 2007.

  1. wygy

    wygy Guest

    Hardmen of sport

    Cycling
    By winning stage 16 of the centenary Tour de France only two weeks after breaking his collar bone in a spectacular crash, Tyler Hamilton has proven beyond all doubt that he is strong, fast and fresh from the fight.


    Hamilton has eclipsed Lance Armstrong as cycling's iron man.
    Hamilton's refusal to quit the Tour had already made him a shoo-in for many observers' man of the race, but Wednesday's breakaway victory has confirmed his status as cycling's iron man.

    In fact, it is not even the first time the 30-year-old American has shown a remarkable disregard for pain.

    He came second in the 2002 Giro d'Italia despite breaking his shoulder in the opening week. He gritted his teeth so much he had to have 11 of his teeth recapped after the race.

    Football
    Terry Butcher's bloodied shirt may have looked gory, and few can doubt Pele's bravery in carrying on after the rough treatment he received in Escape to Victory, but for true lump-in-throat stuff you have to tip your hat to Manchester City goalkeeper Bert Trautman.
    The German earned his place in football folklore when he played on for 15 minutes after breaking his neck in the 1956 FA Cup Final against Birmingham.

    Cricket
    India's Anil Kumble and Australian Rick McCosker are just two players who have played on despite breaking their jaws.

    And Colin Cowdrey and Paul Terry have both gone out to bat for England against West Indies with broken arms.

    But for true win-at-all-costs ruggedness, the nod must go to Malcolm Marshall.

    The Windies paceman not only batted one-handed against England at Headingley in 1984 after breaking his thumb, he also hit a boundary.

    And when he was given the ball in England's innings, Marshall produced a match-winning spell that included a caught-and-bowled that did his biffed thumb no favours.

    RUGBY
    New Zealand second row Colin Meads could almost warrant a section on his own.

    His most famous exploit was refusing to come off against Eastern Transvaal in 1970 despite breaking an arm - his own, for once.

    But pride of place in the red badge of courage stakes must go to fellow All Black Wayne Shelford.

    In 1986, a French pack gave the number eight a most fearsome shoeing that left him with a concussion, a few less teeth and, wait for it, a ripped scrotum.

    Unperturbed by the sight of one of his testicles hanging out, Shelford instructed the physio to stitch him up on the side of the pitch so he could play on.

    The All Blacks lost but nobody would ever mess with Shelford again.

    F1
    When Niki Lauda's Ferrari careered off the Nurburgring at the 1976 German GP and burst into flames, there were many watching who wondered if they would ever see Lauda alive again.

    They did, but only just. And within six weeks of being given last rites whilst in a coma, the Austrian was back in a car at Monza.

    He finished fourth - and ultimately lost the drivers' title by a point to James Hunt - but the blood stains on his balaclava told their own story.
     
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  3. Duncan Ferguson!

    Whatever you think about him as a player he was properly nails. Took no messing from people on the pitch or off it....as those poor burglars found out to their cost.

    In terms of comeback Will Ralph 'Dixie' Dean lost a testicle in a tackle but still went on to be the greatest centre forward of all time.
     
  4. getofmeland

    getofmeland Guest

    Jamie Carragher is a modern one for football, he efforts to prevent AC Milan from scoring by chucking his body to block the ball to help keep us level at 3 nil, he is also one of these players who plays with pure passion for his club... There are very few about personally I would have him as Liverpool Captain, because of his Passion...

    Always willing to sacrifice his body for the team... (I am talking about him on a club level, rather than an international level)

    Stuey probably won't agree, but I don't expect him to...
     
  5. dobrien7

    dobrien7 Guest

    I thought Wayne Shelford never lost a game as an All Black? Or was that just as captain?
     
  6. He's a good, fully committed player...I just don't think you can say he's 'hard'.
     
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  8. man, all these talks about losing testicles made me think about playing my next rugby game... not..
     
  9. melon

    melon Guest

    SHANE WEBKE!
     
  10. TRUE LEGND

    TRUE LEGND Guest

    2001 i seen shane webke get smacked over at a nightclub in Sydney by Jerry Collins at BEEF & BOURBON the scuffle started out in the toilets and ended with Shane lying in the **** try Jerry was later ushered out of the back door by the Island or Maori bounces who were known to jerry. This topic was also discussed on the IRB forums last year
     
  11. Ashton

    Ashton Guest

    :lol2tn: Oh boy!

    How bout psycho aka Stuart Pearce? Now he was hard!
     
  12. noikz

    noikz Guest


    Cheers for posting that. Awesome vid. :cheers:
     
  13. JPR Williams was meant to be pretty hard too. I don't suppose you can write off Johnno and Dallaglio either.
     
  14. JPR Williams used to use his skills as a doctor to just stitch himself back together on the side of the pitch before rejoining the fray.

    Combine that with the tackles he put in and you tell he was one hard *******.
     
  15. noikz

    noikz Guest

    I've got a vid of JPR I've been meaning to upload, where he talks about not playing the AB's again after having his face stamped on.
     
  16. noikz

    noikz Guest

    Here it is:




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    ...and to contrast, here's kissball warrior Deco making a fast recovery from a life threatening injury:




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  17. Stop making a tit out yourself.

    Oh look everyone rugby players are all butterfingered, show-offy idiots :

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    As opposed to footy players who do this all the time :

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    Try not to choke on your own self-righteousness but the worst dives you'll ever see came in *gasp* a rugby game

    Andy Hayden & Frank Oliver were as cynical as any footy player has ever been.
     
  18. noikz

    noikz Guest

    Stop making a tit out yourself.

    Oh look everyone rugby players are all butterfingered, show-offy idiots :

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    As opposed to footy players who do this all the time :

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    Try not to choke on your own self-righteousness but the worst dives you'll ever see came in *gasp* a rugby game

    Andy Hayden & Frank Oliver were as cynical as any footy player has ever been.
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    So your point is that what Deco did is not commonplace in top flight kissball?

    The second vid cuts off before whatever it was you were trying to show. :zzz: I just saw some guy take the ball as far backwards as he did forwards in his own half at that.
     
  19. getofmeland

    getofmeland Guest

    He's a good, fully committed player...I just don't think you can say he's 'hard'. [/b][/quote] t

    Not as in Hard as fighting Hard... I believe he is a player who wouldn't fall down when tapped and would get up and fight with his dying breath... however its the old case of define the meaning of Hard...

    Cos I could bring Vinnie Jones in the equation, as he was considered the Hard Man!!!
     
  20. Rugby_Cymru

    Rugby_Cymru Guest

    Stop making a tit out yourself.

    Oh look everyone rugby players are all butterfingered, show-offy idiots :

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    As opposed to footy players who do this all the time :

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    He's got a point there.

    But why is Evorton always the example? I don't follow football, but they're not that good are they?
     
  21. That's part of my point...my team isn't that good by any stretch of the imagination, we aren't one of the moneyed elite, but I can still post numerous examples from the last year of them exhibiting all the best facets of a fine, fine sport.

    They go on about cheatball etc etc but I was actually at THE DiCanio game when with the goal at his mercy he chose to call the ball dead to allow our injured goalkeeper to get treatment instead of scoring. It was a fantastically noble and stupidly corinthian thing to do (and let's not forget he wasa pretty villified player).

    Just putting on montages of the worst examples of footballing cheats and comparing them with moments of rugby genius should be beneath us.

    It was one of our players showing tremendous close control to make mugs out of one of the best midfields in the country....if you are only capable of appreciating actual goals/trys I can post some of them.

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    That's a sign of the tremendous player...but not a 'hard' one. You are thinking more of gutsy & professional. Not by any stretch of the imagination am I besmirching of the young Evertonian ;)
     
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