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Reiser99

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So if Toulouse forfeit that's 28-0 win to Cardiff.

So that would make the table look like this

7. Toulouse - 7 points -4 points difference
8. Cardiff - 7 points (As they would have a worse aggregate points between themselves and Toulouse)
9. Wasps - 6 points
10. Castres - 3 points -11 points difference
11. Stade Francais - 2 points -38 points difference
12. Scarlets - 2 points -63 points difference

So for Toulouse to miss out these are the options that could happen.

Wasps - Win of any kind against Munster or losing BP because Wasps have a better head to head against Toulouse.
Castres - BP win against Quins or 4-point win and win by a margin of 8 points.
Stade Francais - BP win against Connacht and win by a margin of 35 points (Unlikely)
Scarlets - BP win against Bristol and win by a margin of 60 points (It ain't happening)

Tbh if I were a Toulouse fan I'd be worried, but not too worried. I don't see Stade or Scarlets overtaking them. Wasps could well struggle to get a LBP, so it's only really if Castres can win.

Edit: Need a Wasps LBP and a Castres win for Toulouse to miss out.
 
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Stade might be able to get the win if they have the right ref and scrum. Decent overall team from Connacht but props are very callow.

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Didn't realise Stade's points difference was that bad, we can rule them out I guess

Wasps could also knock Toulouse out with 4 tries regardless of result
 

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I don't get why Cardiff would be ahead of Toulouse?
Cardiff are on -61

~The rules say
(i) the best aggregate points difference from the pool stage

So the pool stage not between the two games
 

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I don't get why Cardiff would be ahead of Toulouse?
Cardiff are on -61

~The rules say
(i) the best aggregate points difference from the pool stage

So the pool stage not between the two games
In the event of a tie between two or more teams, the following tie-breakers are used, as directed by EPCR:

  1. Where teams have played each other
    1. The club with the greater number of competition points from only matches involving tied teams.
    2. If equal, the club with the best aggregate points difference from those matches.
    3. If equal, the club that scored the most tries in those matches.
  2. Where teams remain tied and/or have not played each other in the competition (i.e. are from different pools)
    1. The club with the best aggregate points difference from the pool stage.
    2. If equal, the club that scored the most tries in the pool stage.
    3. If equal, the club with the fewest players suspended in the pool stage.
    4. If equal, the drawing of lots will determine a club's ranking.
My bad I miscalculated. Toulouse have a +4 aggregate and Cardiff would have a - 4 aggregate between the two teams. I read as 29-7 for some reason. So yeah Cardiff would be behind Toulouse. Now I definitely think they will still scrape the knockouts.
 

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Deegan back in a euro squad is great to see.
 

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Wasps team line up.

No mention of Fifita, Barbeary and T Willis sadly. Also no Alo, JTA, Frost, Gopps but still a strong team. Millar Mills will be expected to go a fair distance but Scholtz defo the better scrumamger.
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Literally starting a global pandemic just so you can qualify for the Heineken Cup knockouts,
Tigers shame really does know no bounds
I've said it from the start this whole thing is a conspiracy against Leinster.

 

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