How many players do you think the Squad will be...?

Discussion in '2017 British & Irish Lions Tour' started by GimleyUK, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. GimleyUK

    GimleyUK Guest

    A rough guess but im thinking based on the playes and what Geechs took last tour to SA in 97:

    5 Props

    3 Hookers

    4 Second Rows

    2 Opensides

    2 Blind Sides

    3 Number 8s

    3 Scrum Halves

    2 FlyHalves

    2 Inside Centers

    3 Outside Centers

    4 Wingers

    2 Full Backs

    2 Utility Backs

    And who would your squad be ?
     
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  3. GimleyUK

    GimleyUK Guest

    This is who I think they'll take. This is not my personal preference but who I think they'll go for

    Props
    Gethin Jenkins
    Andrew Sheridan
    John Hayes
    Euan Murray
    Adam Jones

    Hookers
    Flannery
    Best
    Mears

    2nd Rows
    POC
    AW Jones
    D O'C
    Hines

    Open sides
    Wallace
    Williams

    Blind Sides
    Croft
    Ferris

    8s
    Jamie Heaslip
    Dan Ward-Smith
    Ryan Jones

    Scrumhalves
    Phillips
    Peel/O Leary (Dependent on Peels Fitness)
    Blair

    Flyhalves
    S Jones
    R O'Gara

    Inside Centers
    Henson/Flutey (Dependent on Henson's Fitness)
    D'Arcy

    Outside Centers
    BOD
    Roberts
    Shanklin

    Wingers
    Bowe
    Cueto
    Williams
    Sackey

    FullBacks
    Byrne
    Kearney

    Utility Backs
    Hook
    Cipriani
     
  4. MunsterMan

    MunsterMan Guest

    If I was in charge:

    Props:
    Gethin Jenkins
    Euan Murray

    Adam Jones
    Marcu Horan
    John Hayes

    Hookers:
    Rory Best
    Jerry Flannery
    Ross Ford/Lee Mears

    Second Row:
    Paul O'Connell
    Alun Wyn Jones

    Donnacha O'Callaghan
    Nathan Hines/Ian Gough

    Open Side:
    Martyn Williams
    David Wallace

    Blind Side:
    Stephen Ferris
    Tom Croft

    Number Eight:
    Ryan Jones
    Jamie Heaslip
    Denis Leamy

    Scrumhalf:
    Mike Blair
    Mike Phillips
    Tomás O'Leary

    Fly Half:
    Stephen Jones
    Ronan O'Gara

    Inside Centre:
    Riki Flutey
    Gordan D'arcy

    Outside Centre:
    Brian O'Driscoll
    Tom Shanklin
    Jamie Roberts

    Wings:
    Tommy Bowe
    Mark Cueto
    Shane Williams
    Luke Fitzgerald

    Fullback:
    Lee Byrne
    Delon armitage

    Utility Backs:
    Rob Kearney
    Max Evans/Keith Earls (sorry lads, but Henson won't be fit enough, he would be there otherwise)

    hat's who I'd pick, now you tell me why I am wrong, I tell you you're wrong etc etc.
     
  5. GimleyUK

    GimleyUK Guest

    This is my choice, as I said the team above is who i think they will take. And I'll presume Henson is Injured and unavailable as you have. Otherwise he would have been my first choice 12.

    Props
    G Jenkins
    D. Jones
    M. Horan
    A. Jones
    E. Murray

    Hookers
    J. Flannery
    D. Hartley
    R. Best

    Second Rows
    P.O'Connel
    AW Jones

    D. O'Callaghan
    N. Hines

    Blindsides
    S. Ferris
    T. Croft
    J. Thomas

    Open Sides
    M. Williams
    D. Wallace

    8s
    R.Jones
    J.Heaslip


    9s
    Peel
    Cooper
    Cusiter

    10s
    S. Jones
    R. OGara

    Inside Centers
    Gavin Evans
    G. D'Arcy
    D. Bishop

    Outside
    B. O'Driscoll
    T. Shanklin

    Wingers
    T. James
    T. Bowe
    S. Williams
    U. Monye
    L. Fitzgerald


    Fullbacks
    L Byne
    R Kearney
    M. Stodard

    Utility Backs
    J Roberts
    D Cipriani
    J Hook
     
  6. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    well you've both picked 2 more than Geech but meh.

    Anyway here's who I think will go, not want to see go.

    Props:
    Gethin Jenkins, Andrew Sherridan, Euan Murray, Adam Jones, Phil Vickery

    Hookers:
    Jerry Flannery, Rory Best, Lee Mears

    Locks:
    POC, DOC, Wyn Jones, Shaw

    Backrow:
    Martyn Williams, David Wallace, Stephen Ferris, Ryan Jones, Jamie Heaslip, Tom Croft

    Scrum halves:
    Mike Phillips, Dwayne Peel, Danny Care

    Outhalves:
    Stephen Jones, Ronan O'Gara, Danny Cipriani

    Centres:
    BOD, Fluetey, Shanklin, Roberts

    Wings
    Bowe, Sackey, Fitzgerland, Williams

    Fullbacks:
    Byrne, Armitage, Kearney
     
  7. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GimleyUK @ Apr 6 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Even fit though there's no logic in pairing 2 players together who can't stand each other, it's an either/or decision not both.
     
  8. Bluemoon

    Bluemoon Guest

    Cant Disagree with much of them An Tarbh. I think you may see Lewsey there aswell. Ive just got a weird feeling a wasp contingency will be present. Like Cipriani and Lewsey. Cipriani couldnt make it to the England team so god help us if he makes it to the lions...

    Props:
    Gethin Jenkins, Andrew Sherridan, Euan Murray, Adam Jones, Phil Vickery

    Hookers:
    Jerry Flannery, Rory Best, Lee Mears

    Locks:
    POC, Wyn Jones, DOC, Shaw,

    Backrow:
    Martyn Williams, David Wallace, Stephen Ferris, Ryan Jones, Jamie Heaslip, Tom Croft

    Scrum halves:
    Mike Phillips, Dwayne Peel, Mike Blair

    Outhalves:
    Stephen Jones, Ronan O'Gara

    Centres:
    BOD, Fluetey, Shanklin, Roberts

    Wings
    Bowe, Sackey, Williams, Lewsey.

    Fullbacks:
    Byrne, Armitage, Kearney
     
  9. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    meant to put Cipriani in at 10, still think he'll tour and should then play himself into the test side if he shows any form.
     
  10. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GimleyUK @ Apr 6 2009, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Hook yes, but I couldn't agree with Cribiani as a Utility back. There're far better utility players available. Being from Munster (and having again witnessed his ALL ENCOMPASSING power again at the weekend) I'd say Earls ahead of him, wouldn't mind seeing Lewsey there, I can see Jamie Roberts playing anywhere from 11-15.

    I'd even say Flood ahead of Cribiani at this stage.

    edit: And lets not forget the faultless Barry Murphy.
    <<<<<<<
     
  11. Meh

    Meh Guest

    If there's any justice in the world then Danny Cipriani won't go on the tour at all.

    Unless he comes and plays a blinder, which I doubt, then all will be forgiven.

    I think the fly halves will/should be (unless Wilko comes back) Jones, O'Gara and perhaps Hook.
     
  12. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    he's not played international rugby in over a year, McGeechan said he wouldn't be taking any players who were half fit or coming back from injury with little game time under their belt, sadly for the pair of them that's the case with Wilkinson and Henson.
     
  13. gingergenius

    gingergenius Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GimleyUK @ Apr 6 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Makes no sense at all taking half a touring party full of Welsh players who couldn't even get into a side that came 4th in the 6 Nations.

    You might as well take half a touring party full of Wasps players that came 10th in the GP...
     
  14. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    You guys really think Cipriani is gonna make the tour? I think it would be a huge mistake to field him against the Springboks, or am i wrong? Has he even ever played in South Africa?
     
  15. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    there'll be plenty who haven't played in SA that's hardly going to be used against him.
     
  16. GimleyUK

    GimleyUK Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Apr 6 2009, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Exactly

    I pick my selection on players who i think are gifted and intelligent in their decision

    Hense Gavin Evans, best option if Henson doesnt go.
     
  17. GimleyUK

    GimleyUK Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Apr 6 2009, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    If both BOD and Henson were fit i would be basing a team around Henson over BOD.

    Henson is that good.

    But even if he scrapes through this injury with enough time to make the last rounds of the heineken cup with the ospreys, then i would be surprised if he hit form quick enough to be taken as a safe bet.

    Then again all the world top coaches rate him so highly that i wouldnt be very surprised if the Coaches make an exception to their injured players rule and select him.

    my theory on that previous statement is that in Wales we all understand that Gatland, Howley and Edwards will sell their grandmothers, mothers sisters, wives and kids willingly and cheaply to be able to pick a fit Gavin Henson. And to be honest i would say that most people who have watched him since he started playing at swansea as a 16 year old would definatly agree.
     
  18. GimleyUK

    GimleyUK Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Apr 6 2009, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I think the idea is to select the players for a squad that would be most likely to beat the Bokks.

    I cant really comment much more on what you wrote, as your statement is really just another reflection of your intellect.
     
  19. durbutter

    durbutter Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GimleyUK @ Apr 6 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

    You mean the Magners league :D
     
  20. GimleyUK

    GimleyUK Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noidsay @ Apr 6 2009, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    thought one of you would notice...! ha ha ha...! we'll see... i certainly dont expect to win at Thormund Park but i know we definatly can.

    If anything i think its fair to say the ospreys really deserve a bit of luck, they have had very little this year, with injuries etc, and the miracle of becoming a great team over night and beating munster and going on towards the final is not just a dream it is a possibility, but we need our luck to change.

    Even though after the Ulster match it really may seem like we need a miracle.


    ha ha ha
     
  21. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    you've got Wayne Barnes on Sunday which is a start and tis an appropriate time of year for miracles.
     
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