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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 333209" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>One of the problems with expressing bans in terms of matches is that it can throw up some strange anomalies. </p><p></p><p>What if the seriousness of an offence is worth, say, four matches, but there are only two left in the season? Do you carry the ban over to the first two matches of the following season. </p><p></p><p>If so, what if a NZ player is banned for four matches in Super 14 but there are only two left. Does that mean he will not be allowed to play ITM Cup and cannot go on the end of season All Blacks tour?</p><p></p><p>You cannot ban within competitions either, because that could end up even worse. Here is an example I posted on "The Roar" today. Lets say a player commits a really serious act of foul play, such as an eye gouge, in a Heineken Cup match. A “competition specific†ban could see him banned for, say, 18 Heineken Cup matches. That would be between two and three years depending on whether or not his team made the play-offs. If could be even more if his team misses qualification for one year, but in the meantime, this player would be free to play in Premiership/ Magners League/ Top 14 and Six Nations. That would be just a farcical state of affairs.</p><p></p><p>As I see it, the best solution would be a combination of a ban expressed in weeks and matches, divided on a basis of the level of rugby rather than a specific competition. The levels would be</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Domestic:</strong> Super 14, ITM Cup, Club Rugby, Magners League, Top 14, Pro D2, Heineken Cup, Premiership etc</p><p></p><p><strong>International</strong>: Tri/Four Nations, Six Nations, Autumn Internationals, June Tours, Rugby World Cup etc.</p><p></p><p><strong>Step 1:</strong> Decide on a punishment expressed in number of matches at the level in which the player was cited. Also decide on a maximum number of weeks that the offence carries.</p><p></p><p><strong>Step 2:</strong> Fix a date for the last match to which the suspension applies. If the last match is beyond the end of the current season, then use the maximum number of weeks instead.</p><p></p><p><strong>Step 3:</strong> Ban the player from playing in any and all matches at any level up until and including that date.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 333209, member: 20605"] One of the problems with expressing bans in terms of matches is that it can throw up some strange anomalies. What if the seriousness of an offence is worth, say, four matches, but there are only two left in the season? Do you carry the ban over to the first two matches of the following season. If so, what if a NZ player is banned for four matches in Super 14 but there are only two left. Does that mean he will not be allowed to play ITM Cup and cannot go on the end of season All Blacks tour? You cannot ban within competitions either, because that could end up even worse. Here is an example I posted on "The Roar" today. Lets say a player commits a really serious act of foul play, such as an eye gouge, in a Heineken Cup match. A “competition specific†ban could see him banned for, say, 18 Heineken Cup matches. That would be between two and three years depending on whether or not his team made the play-offs. If could be even more if his team misses qualification for one year, but in the meantime, this player would be free to play in Premiership/ Magners League/ Top 14 and Six Nations. That would be just a farcical state of affairs. As I see it, the best solution would be a combination of a ban expressed in weeks and matches, divided on a basis of the level of rugby rather than a specific competition. The levels would be [B] Domestic:[/B] Super 14, ITM Cup, Club Rugby, Magners League, Top 14, Pro D2, Heineken Cup, Premiership etc [B]International[/B]: Tri/Four Nations, Six Nations, Autumn Internationals, June Tours, Rugby World Cup etc. [B]Step 1:[/B] Decide on a punishment expressed in number of matches at the level in which the player was cited. Also decide on a maximum number of weeks that the offence carries. [B]Step 2:[/B] Fix a date for the last match to which the suspension applies. If the last match is beyond the end of the current season, then use the maximum number of weeks instead. [B]Step 3:[/B] Ban the player from playing in any and all matches at any level up until and including that date. [/QUOTE]
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