I need help on a rule, I just dont get it.

[KMad]

I dont understand when a player kicks the ball out it sometimes goes back to where hes kicked it, and sometimes it goes to where it goes out? Help?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

If you catch the ball within your 22 and then kick it out on the full, the lineout is taken where the ball goes out. If the ball is carried back in to your 22 and then kicked out on the full, then the lineout is where you kicked from (this is why you'll often hear a referee shout "Carried back" or "Always inside").
If you catch the ball/have the ball outside of your 22 and kick it out on the full, the lineout is taken where you kicked from. If it bounces before going out then the lineout is where it crossed the line.

 

[smartcooky]

I dont understand when a player kicks the ball out it sometimes goes back to where hes kicked it, and sometimes it goes to where it goes out? Help?

► The long version...

[TEXTAREA]19.1 THROW-IN

NO GAIN IN GROUND
(a) Outside a team’s 22, a team member kicks directly into touch. Except for a penalty kick, when a player anywhere in the field of play who is outside the 22 kicks directly into touch, there is no gain in ground. The throw-in is taken either at the place opposite where the player kicked the ball, or at the place where it went into touch, whichever is nearer that player’s goal line.

(b) When a team causes the ball to be put into their own 22. When a defending player plays the ball from outside the 22 and it goes into that player’s 22 or in-goal area without touching an opposition player and then that player or another player from that team kicks the ball directly into touch before it touches an opposition player, or a tackle takes place or a ruck or maul is formed, there is no gain in ground. This applies when a defending player moves back behind the 22 metre line to take a quick throw-in and then the ball is kicked directly into touch.

(c) If a player with one or both feet inside the 22 metre line, picks up the ball which was stationary outside the 22 metre line, and kicks it directly into touch, then the player has taken the ball back inside the 22-metre line, so there is no gain in ground.

(d) Defending team takes ball into their own 22 at a scrum or lineout. When a defending team throws the ball into a scrum or lineout outside that team’s 22 and the ball then crosses into the team’s 22 without touching an opposition player and then a player from the defending team kicks the ball directly into touch before it touches an opposition player, or a tackle takes place or a ruck or maul is formed, there is no gain in ground.

GAIN IN GROUND
(e) If a player with one or both feet inside the 22 metre line, picks up the ball which was in motion outside the 22 metre line, and kicks it directly into touch from within the 22 metre area, the throw-in is where the ball went into touch.

(f) Player takes ball into their own 22. When a defending player plays the ball from outside the 22 and it goes into that player’s 22 or in-goal area and it touches an opposition player, or a tackle takes place or a ruck or maul is formed and then the ball is kicked by a player of that team directly in touch, the throw-in is where the ball went into touch.

(g) Ball put into a player’s 22 by the opposition. When the ball is put into a team’s 22 by the opposition, without having touched (or been touched by) a player of the defending team before crossing the 22 and the ball is then kicked into touch by the defending team, the throw-in is where the ball went into touch.

(h) Kicks indirectly into touch. When a player anywhere in the playing area kicks indirectly into touch so that the ball bounces in the field of play the throw-in is taken where the ball went into touch. When a player anywhere in the playing area kicks the ball so that it touches or is touched by an opposition player and then goes indirectly into touch so that the ball bounces in the field of play the throw-in is taken where the ball went into touch.
When a player anywhere in the playing area kicks the ball so that it touches or is touched by an opposition player and then goes directly into touch the throw-in is taken in line with where the opposition player touched the ball or where the ball crossed the touchline if that is nearer the opposition player’s goal line.

PENALTY KICK
(i) Penalty kick. When a player kicks to touch from a penalty kick anywhere in the playing area, the throw-in is taken where the ball went into touch.

FREE KICK
(j) Outside the kicker’s 22, no gain in ground. When a free kick awarded outside the 22 goes directly into touch, the throw-in is in line with where the ball was kicked, or where it went into touch, whichever is nearer the kicker’s goal line.

(k) Inside the kicker’s 22 or in-goal, gain in ground. When a free kick is awarded in the 22 or in-goal and the kick goes directly into touch, the throw-in is where the ball went into touch.
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► the short version
If you kick the ball into touch on the full from inside your 22 with when it was carried, passed or played back into the 22m by an opponent, the throw in is where the ball went into touch.

If you kick the ball into touch on the full from inside your 22 with when it was carried, passed or played back into the 22m by you or a team-mate, the throw in is where the you kicked it from.

If you kick the ball into touch on the full from a Free Kick when the mark is outside the 22m the throw in is where the you kicked it from.

If you kick the ball into touch on the full from a Free Kick when the mark is inside the 22m the throw in is where the ball went into touch.

If you kick the ball into touch on the full from a Penalty Kick the throw in is always where the ball went into touch, regardless of where you kicked it from.

 

[KMad]

Cheers for that.

 

[SelimNiai]

Need help with a rule?

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[smartcooky]

Need help with a rule?

Business idea, maybe we can have a forum to help certain referees to learn the game before they pick up that flaming whistle> I'm signing up Steve Walsh straight away

...in my most outrageous French accent....

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[SelimNiai]

...in my most outrageous French accent....

"We are not interested, you see, as we have already got one!!!"


www.rugbyrefs.com

Not working that well though