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If Michael hooper was English would he actually start at 7?
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<blockquote data-quote="Patchey" data-source="post: 661099" data-attributes="member: 61403"><p>Well I only said they were similar, I'd agree Hooper is more dynamic than Seymour, although I think its a little harsh to say Dave isn't a fairly explosive presence on the pitch. Certainly Seymour is the closest thing to an English version of Hooper, maybe Kvesic as well I guess. In fact the more i think of it the more I think Kvesic's lack of game time is another indication that Hooper wouldn't make much headway if he was English. </p><p></p><p><strong>Guilty</strong>, I agree that he's world class but I think the issue is that England have a habit of passing over better players in favour of players who fit the system the team is playing in at any given time. For back rows that means we haven't had a jackling, turn over winning, in your face flanker for a while now. And when they do come along we don't pick them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think probably yes. Kvesic came through the youth system, as I think did Armitage, and both have ground skills similar to Hooper. I think that while the international coaching team is maybe less keen on that type of flanker, individual clubs are more than happy to develop players who show the potential to play in that kind of way. Maybe they'd be better at it if they had <strong>also</strong> been coached in that way at in the international set up while young as well, but who knows?</p><p></p><p>Interestingly, who of England's best flankers, Wood and Kvesic, came from the same academy (Worcester right?), but both have pretty different styles and strengths. So I think that shows that players can be coached by the same set up and develop differently according to their strengths.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patchey, post: 661099, member: 61403"] Well I only said they were similar, I'd agree Hooper is more dynamic than Seymour, although I think its a little harsh to say Dave isn't a fairly explosive presence on the pitch. Certainly Seymour is the closest thing to an English version of Hooper, maybe Kvesic as well I guess. In fact the more i think of it the more I think Kvesic's lack of game time is another indication that Hooper wouldn't make much headway if he was English. [B]Guilty[/B], I agree that he's world class but I think the issue is that England have a habit of passing over better players in favour of players who fit the system the team is playing in at any given time. For back rows that means we haven't had a jackling, turn over winning, in your face flanker for a while now. And when they do come along we don't pick them. I think probably yes. Kvesic came through the youth system, as I think did Armitage, and both have ground skills similar to Hooper. I think that while the international coaching team is maybe less keen on that type of flanker, individual clubs are more than happy to develop players who show the potential to play in that kind of way. Maybe they'd be better at it if they had [B]also[/B] been coached in that way at in the international set up while young as well, but who knows? Interestingly, who of England's best flankers, Wood and Kvesic, came from the same academy (Worcester right?), but both have pretty different styles and strengths. So I think that shows that players can be coached by the same set up and develop differently according to their strengths. [/QUOTE]
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