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If Michael hooper was English would he actually start at 7?
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<blockquote data-quote="welshglory" data-source="post: 661150" data-attributes="member: 38673"><p>Just have a look at the 7/openside options England have had since Neil Back retired and they haven't exactly been that exciting or promising</p><p>I can understand why they've selected other options who were available.</p><p></p><p>Dave Seymour</p><p>Michael Lipman</p><p>Magnus Lund</p><p>Andy Hazell</p><p>Will Skinner</p><p>Hendre Fourie</p><p>James Scaysbrook</p><p>Andy Saull</p><p>Luke Wallace</p><p>Will Fraser</p><p></p><p>Guy Mercer is on the radar but isn't that promising</p><p>Steff Armitage didn't play that well when he got the chance for England</p><p>Matt Kvesic is really promising and that's why he's been in pretty much every England squad since he came into the premiership.</p><p></p><p>Calum Clark is a 6/7</p><p>James Haskell is a 6/7</p><p>Lewis Moody was a 6/7</p><p>Joe Worsely was a 6.5</p><p></p><p>Tom Rees had genuine world class potential and was always invovled with the English squad, even with little to no game time, but like i said he was always injured and then had to retire from injury.</p><p></p><p>I mean c'mon Julian Salvi was the best 7 in England from 2009 till now with his stints in Bath and Leicester and he couldn't even crack the Australian squad half of the time. </p><p>England just doesn't produce really really good traditional fetching 7's. Mostly just guys who are very comfortable as flankers in general. I don't want to sound too harsh and i'm not even criticising, i'm just observing and think there's a bit of a fantasy of the standard of the English "genuine" 7's. From what i've witnessed first hand in grassroots and schools rugby, pro rugby seems to be the same apart from a few exceptions, in England having a very well round skill set is much more respected than being extremely good at one or a few things. Same with other sports like football.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="welshglory, post: 661150, member: 38673"] Just have a look at the 7/openside options England have had since Neil Back retired and they haven't exactly been that exciting or promising I can understand why they've selected other options who were available. Dave Seymour Michael Lipman Magnus Lund Andy Hazell Will Skinner Hendre Fourie James Scaysbrook Andy Saull Luke Wallace Will Fraser Guy Mercer is on the radar but isn't that promising Steff Armitage didn't play that well when he got the chance for England Matt Kvesic is really promising and that's why he's been in pretty much every England squad since he came into the premiership. Calum Clark is a 6/7 James Haskell is a 6/7 Lewis Moody was a 6/7 Joe Worsely was a 6.5 Tom Rees had genuine world class potential and was always invovled with the English squad, even with little to no game time, but like i said he was always injured and then had to retire from injury. I mean c'mon Julian Salvi was the best 7 in England from 2009 till now with his stints in Bath and Leicester and he couldn't even crack the Australian squad half of the time. England just doesn't produce really really good traditional fetching 7's. Mostly just guys who are very comfortable as flankers in general. I don't want to sound too harsh and i'm not even criticising, i'm just observing and think there's a bit of a fantasy of the standard of the English "genuine" 7's. From what i've witnessed first hand in grassroots and schools rugby, pro rugby seems to be the same apart from a few exceptions, in England having a very well round skill set is much more respected than being extremely good at one or a few things. Same with other sports like football. [/QUOTE]
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