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If Michael hooper was English would he actually start at 7?
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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 661171" data-attributes="member: 42330"><p>If Hooper magically switched overnight... if you believe Lancaster's public utterances then yes, absolutely. He has repeatedly spoken of his desire to have a Hooper like option.</p><p></p><p>Could a player like Hooper come through the England system? I believe so with a few caveats.</p><p></p><p>We do produce small-ish foraging opensides. We mightn't do so in great numbers, but its not an alien player type to the English game. </p><p></p><p>Right now England have 2-5 options at around international quality in that role. </p><p></p><p>I haven't seen enough of Seymour to judge tbh. He's at a bad club to make England claims from though, Sale don't attract the same sort of attention and haven't consistently had the platform to show all of his game.</p><p></p><p>Wallace looks like falling just short although it wouldn't surprise me to eat those words next season.</p><p></p><p>Fraser looks like falling just short but he's injured too often to be sure. </p><p></p><p>Steflon is in France and doesn't count. </p><p></p><p>That leaves Kvesic. Kvesic is young and unproven, which makes him undesirable to a conservative coach, and also picked an awful club to be at last season. Kvesic needs that killer season to break through. That said, opportunities to blood him have been provided and ignored. Which makes you wonder whether Lancaster really wants that sort of player. I reckon he'll pick one in time though.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of other fairly light ballhogs kicking around the England system of lesser quality. Mercer, Nutley, Betty at Wuss, young Gus Jones at Pests, Will Welch and Andy Saull, Matt Everard was in that model but never really took. </p><p></p><p>So yes. We produce players like Hooper. Players approaching Hooper's quality get international chances. I feel that people saying he'd have become nothing much in the English system are indulging in some very lazy stereotyping. There's a caveat though. There's a strong possibility that English coaches would have encouraged Hooper to get as big as possible, and that would have possibly ruined him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peat, post: 661171, member: 42330"] If Hooper magically switched overnight... if you believe Lancaster's public utterances then yes, absolutely. He has repeatedly spoken of his desire to have a Hooper like option. Could a player like Hooper come through the England system? I believe so with a few caveats. We do produce small-ish foraging opensides. We mightn't do so in great numbers, but its not an alien player type to the English game. Right now England have 2-5 options at around international quality in that role. I haven't seen enough of Seymour to judge tbh. He's at a bad club to make England claims from though, Sale don't attract the same sort of attention and haven't consistently had the platform to show all of his game. Wallace looks like falling just short although it wouldn't surprise me to eat those words next season. Fraser looks like falling just short but he's injured too often to be sure. Steflon is in France and doesn't count. That leaves Kvesic. Kvesic is young and unproven, which makes him undesirable to a conservative coach, and also picked an awful club to be at last season. Kvesic needs that killer season to break through. That said, opportunities to blood him have been provided and ignored. Which makes you wonder whether Lancaster really wants that sort of player. I reckon he'll pick one in time though. There are plenty of other fairly light ballhogs kicking around the England system of lesser quality. Mercer, Nutley, Betty at Wuss, young Gus Jones at Pests, Will Welch and Andy Saull, Matt Everard was in that model but never really took. So yes. We produce players like Hooper. Players approaching Hooper's quality get international chances. I feel that people saying he'd have become nothing much in the English system are indulging in some very lazy stereotyping. There's a caveat though. There's a strong possibility that English coaches would have encouraged Hooper to get as big as possible, and that would have possibly ruined him. [/QUOTE]
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