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<blockquote data-quote="jonny24" data-source="post: 656785" data-attributes="member: 62880"><p>Well in response to Big Ewis and some others, I jsut want to say I'm not trying to pick on Conrad or anyone else, I'm just trying to wrap my head around some of the thoughts that have been posted in this thread as well as offer an alternate perspective. I'm genuinely confused by things said here, and a good deal of other things seem to very easily taken a wrong way that then gets argued about.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what I was getting at when I asked if I was missing some sarcasm.</p><p></p><p>Pic 1: One slightly tanned guy (what I'd call Portuguese, so I guess pretty Argentinian?) with a drum and a soccer shirt. Next to him, looking equally tanned and very happy, is buddy in the Pumas jersey. Next to - and behind- that guy, are two quite white looking dudes in soccer jerseys. And Next to and down is an older guy, who could be anything from English to French to Greek... in a Pumas jersey. Pretty hard to draw any conclusions from that.</p><p></p><p>Bottom pic: That dude looks Irish if anything. (I'm assuming no ones going to be offended by mild national impressions at this point).</p><p>followed by an even whiter girl, and yet another even whiter girl, who I don't know where she's from, but she can give me a call anytime to talk about it. :lol:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what you're getting at with this Conrad? I mean here black means African American (Canadian...<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />)... anyway enough arguing about race, even with the most careful wording and best intentions it's never going to go well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Back on topic... Rugby! I think a distinction to make in the recent back-and-forth between you and Heineken regarding "ANC, Springboks, and black South Africans hating rugby". And that is that any hatred, discrimination, or policies within or towards the Boks does not mean it is directed at the sport itself. I freaking HATE the Boston Bruins, bunch o' no good overpaid thugs <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />D) but that doesn't mean I hate the sport of hockey. While some people may dislike the Boks for what they <strong>may</strong> be <strong>percieved</strong> to represent/represented in the past (how's that for PC?), that doesn't mean they dislike the actual game that they play. </p><p></p><p>And while the ANC may be enforcing quotas (whether out of genuine yet misplaced aspirations of equility, or more more distasteful reasons- won't pretend I know anything more than what I learned from watching Invictus), that still doesn't they are against the actual game on the field.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, just trying to clear up some points for myself and others to aid in getting back to discussion and not arguing <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Ah, now that I've read Little guys edits I get it a little? I think we do the opposite here, your "olive/tanned" people- Latino/Iberian/Mediterranean- kind of just fall into "white" here, especially in areas like mine where there isn't the population density for there to be "communites" of similar backgrounds. Basically a random mix of European mutts is par for the course <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jonny24, post: 656785, member: 62880"] Well in response to Big Ewis and some others, I jsut want to say I'm not trying to pick on Conrad or anyone else, I'm just trying to wrap my head around some of the thoughts that have been posted in this thread as well as offer an alternate perspective. I'm genuinely confused by things said here, and a good deal of other things seem to very easily taken a wrong way that then gets argued about. That's what I was getting at when I asked if I was missing some sarcasm. Pic 1: One slightly tanned guy (what I'd call Portuguese, so I guess pretty Argentinian?) with a drum and a soccer shirt. Next to him, looking equally tanned and very happy, is buddy in the Pumas jersey. Next to - and behind- that guy, are two quite white looking dudes in soccer jerseys. And Next to and down is an older guy, who could be anything from English to French to Greek... in a Pumas jersey. Pretty hard to draw any conclusions from that. Bottom pic: That dude looks Irish if anything. (I'm assuming no ones going to be offended by mild national impressions at this point). followed by an even whiter girl, and yet another even whiter girl, who I don't know where she's from, but she can give me a call anytime to talk about it. :lol: I'm not sure what you're getting at with this Conrad? I mean here black means African American (Canadian...;))... anyway enough arguing about race, even with the most careful wording and best intentions it's never going to go well. Back on topic... Rugby! I think a distinction to make in the recent back-and-forth between you and Heineken regarding "ANC, Springboks, and black South Africans hating rugby". And that is that any hatred, discrimination, or policies within or towards the Boks does not mean it is directed at the sport itself. I freaking HATE the Boston Bruins, bunch o' no good overpaid thugs (:D) but that doesn't mean I hate the sport of hockey. While some people may dislike the Boks for what they [B]may[/B] be [B]percieved[/B] to represent/represented in the past (how's that for PC?), that doesn't mean they dislike the actual game that they play. And while the ANC may be enforcing quotas (whether out of genuine yet misplaced aspirations of equility, or more more distasteful reasons- won't pretend I know anything more than what I learned from watching Invictus), that still doesn't they are against the actual game on the field. Anyway, just trying to clear up some points for myself and others to aid in getting back to discussion and not arguing :) EDIT: Ah, now that I've read Little guys edits I get it a little? I think we do the opposite here, your "olive/tanned" people- Latino/Iberian/Mediterranean- kind of just fall into "white" here, especially in areas like mine where there isn't the population density for there to be "communites" of similar backgrounds. Basically a random mix of European mutts is par for the course :cool: [/QUOTE]
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