International Rugby News Top Ten Players

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  1. DaKine

    DaKine Guest

    IRN's Top Ten International Players

    I like their selections but not so sure about Hernandez being better than Dan Carter, I also don't know much about him.

    Mine would probably look like this:

    1. Richie McCaw
    2. Dan Carter
    3. Schalk Burger
    4. Bryan Habana
    5. Shane Williams
    6. Fourie Du Preez
    7. Jean De Villiers
    8. Brian O'Driscoll
    9. John Smits
    10. Victor Matfield

    Though, there are so many good players in top form it is hard to say who would be better than others.
     
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  3. Fushitsusha

    Fushitsusha Guest

    Not trying to put down South Africa, but if we base this on this year then I wouldn't include Habana, Juan Smith, Burger, Smit, Matfield, Du Preez as well as Hernandez. Not saying that any of them weren't great, but they were outshined by other players in those positions this year...

    If this includes the World Cup then I take back everything I said there.

    Also, O'Driscoll hasn't done much for a few years, and would be well behind the pecking order of outside centres.


    My top ten for THIS YEAR would include (in no particular order).....

    Richie Mccaw
    Dan Carter
    Jean DeVilliers
    Matt Giteau
    George Smith
    Sergio Parisse
    Shane Williams
    Mike Blair
    Mils Muliaina

    and a tie between Ryan Jones and Stephen Moore
     
  4. Hall

    Hall Guest

    Richie McCaw was obviously going to be top.

    Personally I wouldn't have put Bryan Habana or Juan Smith anywhere near the top ten. Burger and Matfield? Probably. Jean De Villiers should definately have been in the top ten as well.
     
  5. 187

    187 Guest

    i wish i watched more european footy.

    so can't really comment on this list, what i do know though, is that McCaw was definately going to be #1, how he didn't win IRB player of the year is beyond me.
     
  6. candybum

    candybum Guest

    shouldn't the number one player be Shane Williams? Mr IRB player of the year? lol
     
  7. QLD

    QLD Guest

    same old players. i wouldve chucked in stephen moore lol
     
  8. Flux

    Flux Guest

    Dan Carter is and would be my number one. I don't think I could compose a top ten because I don't see enough NH rugby.
     
  9. Yea not sure at all about Habana and Hernandez even more so. He would barely get in my top 20, he's a Carlos Spencer type player.

    1-Richie McCaw
    2-Jean De Villiers
    3-Dan Carter
    4-Matt Giteau
    5-Shane Williams
    6-Schalk Burger
    7-Sergio Parisse
    8-Mike Blair
    9-Mils Muliana
    10-Horwill
     
  10. alexrugby

    alexrugby Guest

    Shane Williams I think quite nice candidate

    Also Dan Carter, Juan Smith and Habana

    I think McCaw is also very good candidate but he recieved a lot previously and may not appear the jury favorite
     
  11. How long do we have to wait for a descent english player to come long and join those ranks?
    Do we even have any prospects! What a sorry state
     
  12. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (livingsacrifice@hotmail.co.uk @ Jan 13 2009, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Top 10 lists like that are a load of old cobblers anyway; How can somebody compare a Tighthead prop to an openside flanker to a scrum-half to a fly-half to an outside centre? McCaw is at number one, but he's get muched in the front row and wouldn't be any use at kicking for goal from 50 yards on the touchline.

    Then remember that publications such as IRN only consider international players anywhere near worthy of the nod. Using England as an example, straight away that's ******** as I could name a better XV of non-capped players that would wallop the <strike>Johnsons</strike> Andrews selected XV over the AI's. But most will never get a call up because they don't have the right friends in the right places (*coughJamesHaskellcough*). None of these players will ever be looked at by the so-called 'expert' analysts (you know, the same people who call Burger an blindside flanker just because he wears 6) because they're not internationals.

    If there were enough hours in the day to study every player in rugby at the top levels (Premiership, S14, Top 14, ML, HEC etc.) there would be a much fairer ratings for the NH based players. As it its though, SH internationals teams are lightyears ahead of their Northern counterparts which are all in disarray. That's why the 45 players in the <strike>******** who want to kill rugby union</strike> SANZAR national squads will, for now at least, always be rated above anyone else.
     
  13. munross

    munross Guest

    The top 10 must be like this:

    1.Jean de Villiers
    2.Don't care
    3.Don't care
    4.Don't care
    5.Don't care
    6.Don't care
    7.Don't care
    8.Don't care
    9.Don't care
    10.Don't care

    now isn't that a great list? :D

    Shane Williams should be number 1 though, he is after all the player of the year

    McCaw is <strike>overrated</strike> a good player but didn't have a such a great year as Shane Williams
     
  14. alexrugby

    alexrugby Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Intercept King JdV @ Jan 13 2009, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Yeeah the list is great especially started from number two :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  15. Sir Speedy

    Sir Speedy Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Intercept King JdV @ Jan 13 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    No.



    It lacks Dan Parks.

    It also lacks Gavin Henson - ludicrous decision, given his form in the past three games.
     
  16. all7days

    all7days Guest

    Pretty good list. Haven't watched to much Heineken Cup, but of all the rugby I've watched this year heres my list.

    1 - McCaw
    2 - Carter
    3 - Jean De Villiers
    4 - Mils Muliaina
    5 - Shane Williams
    6 - Giteu
    7 - George Smith
    8 - Mike Blair
    9 - Euan Murray (Mainly because he destroyed the All Black scrum)
    10 - Tony the Woodcock (For his outpacing of the Aussie backs for a try in the corner)
     
  17. jimbook

    jimbook Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (all7days @ Jan 17 2009, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    You can't really say Euan Murray destroyed the all black scrumm because it wasn't a full strength All Black team!

    If McCaw Is No.1 on the IRBs ranking why didn't he get player of the year!!!!!!!!
     
  18. ChiefsFan

    ChiefsFan Guest

    Neither Matfield nor Habana deserve to be on that list.
     
  19. all7days

    all7days Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jimbook @ Jan 17 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I could say he only did it because Sean Fitzpatrick, Craig Dowd and Carl Hayman weren't all playing at the same time.
    Or that lil Jamie was just starting out.
    But I'd rather just say that he destroyed the All Black scrum.
    Because he did.
     
  20. 187

    187 Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jan 14 2009, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Top 10 lists like that are a load of old cobblers anyway; How can somebody compare a Tighthead prop to an openside flanker to a scrum-half to a fly-half to an outside centre? McCaw is at number one, but he's get muched in the front row and wouldn't be any use at kicking for goal from 50 yards on the touchline.

    Then remember that publications such as IRN only consider international players anywhere near worthy of the nod. Using England as an example, straight away that's ******** as I could name a better XV of non-capped players that would wallop the <strike>Johnsons</strike> Andrews selected XV over the AI's. But most will never get a call up because they don't have the right friends in the right places (*coughJamesHaskellcough*). None of these players will ever be looked at by the so-called 'expert' analysts (you know, the same people who call Burger an blindside flanker just because he wears 6) because they're not internationals.

    If there were enough hours in the day to study every player in rugby at the top levels (Premiership, S14, Top 14, ML, HEC etc.) there would be a much fairer ratings for the NH based players. As it its though, SH internationals teams are lightyears ahead of their Northern counterparts which are all in disarray. That's why the 45 players in the <strike>******** who want to kill rugby union</strike> SANZAR national squads will, for now at least, always be rated above anyone else.
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    Yeah McCaw would get munched in the front row but I guess these lists are based on their overall influence on a game or ability to turn a game which all the players in the top 10 list can do.
     
  21. Tom_bonavia

    Tom_bonavia Guest

    Ok the most pointless player, playing international rugby today is ..........

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    'can you go! please!'

    David Skrela.
     
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