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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1167598" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>So we stick around with Farrell for another 4 years, by which point he will be one of the oldest if not the oldest FH in world rugby. He has not performed well enough internationally to merit that. Sure they players know him better, they are also closer and so affected by other personality traits that may make him more appealing. We are mere fans but we aren't completely stupid, we can see with our own eyes how Farrell performs for England and it is not good enough to merit him being on of the oldest FHs ever to go to a WC, just as Youngs did not merit being the most capped England player ever.</p><p></p><p>We have seen already the folly of sticking with aging players who aren't performing and flat out refusing to look at succession or contingency planning. All the Sarries players for England are getting old and, excluding George, arguably don't deserve their places any more. The favouritism must stop or we will continue to stagnate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Jones thought it was a good idea to go through 2 world cup cycles with only Youngs as our scrum half, not trying out others seriously until a matter of months before the WC, one time flying in a 30 something year old SH and the other getting some really young SHs with minimal experience internationally (his fault) and chucking them in at the deep end then dropping them when it went wrong even once. Jones also saw fit to do the weird flanker/lock experiments, Jones decided Farrell should play at 12. Coaches **** up a lot and make many stupid decisions, they aren't infallible. If he was, he'd still be in his job. Surely the fact he was taking England on one of the worst years since the 6N began should be a clue that maybe he DIDN'T know what he was talking about, instead being driven by ego?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1167598, member: 56232"] So we stick around with Farrell for another 4 years, by which point he will be one of the oldest if not the oldest FH in world rugby. He has not performed well enough internationally to merit that. Sure they players know him better, they are also closer and so affected by other personality traits that may make him more appealing. We are mere fans but we aren't completely stupid, we can see with our own eyes how Farrell performs for England and it is not good enough to merit him being on of the oldest FHs ever to go to a WC, just as Youngs did not merit being the most capped England player ever. We have seen already the folly of sticking with aging players who aren't performing and flat out refusing to look at succession or contingency planning. All the Sarries players for England are getting old and, excluding George, arguably don't deserve their places any more. The favouritism must stop or we will continue to stagnate. Jones thought it was a good idea to go through 2 world cup cycles with only Youngs as our scrum half, not trying out others seriously until a matter of months before the WC, one time flying in a 30 something year old SH and the other getting some really young SHs with minimal experience internationally (his fault) and chucking them in at the deep end then dropping them when it went wrong even once. Jones also saw fit to do the weird flanker/lock experiments, Jones decided Farrell should play at 12. Coaches **** up a lot and make many stupid decisions, they aren't infallible. If he was, he'd still be in his job. Surely the fact he was taking England on one of the worst years since the 6N began should be a clue that maybe he DIDN'T know what he was talking about, instead being driven by ego? [/QUOTE]
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