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<blockquote data-quote="Which Tyler" data-source="post: 1170289" data-attributes="member: 73592"><p>A] I think it's a touch early to count Bordeaux in amongst the galacticos</p><p>B] It depends on the narrative that's being addressed.</p><p>I don't think I ever saw a narrative of "England don't have a club amongst the best of the best, top 4 in Europe (therefore we must change the system and double to triple the salary cap to compete with the top 4" But I've seen a lot of narrative of "English clubs are frankly just a bit ****, we can't compete in Europe, and will be lucky to get more than 1 club as far as a quarter-final, and that's likely to be down to the draw (therefore we must change the system and increase the salary cap so that we can at least be competitive)"</p><p>The first narrative is accurate, and should be responded to with a "so what? we don't have an automatic right to be, and these things are cyclical" whilst the first was always hyperbole.</p><p></p><p>NB: I say that as someone who's been wanting to restructure* the top 20-24 English clubs for the best part of 20 years.</p><p></p><p>* 10 on top, 14 below, "proper" competition between the two, proper exposure for both. Concentrate talent at the top, increase variety of opposition, increase exposure to knock-out rugby.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Which Tyler, post: 1170289, member: 73592"] A] I think it's a touch early to count Bordeaux in amongst the galacticos B] It depends on the narrative that's being addressed. I don't think I ever saw a narrative of "England don't have a club amongst the best of the best, top 4 in Europe (therefore we must change the system and double to triple the salary cap to compete with the top 4" But I've seen a lot of narrative of "English clubs are frankly just a bit ****, we can't compete in Europe, and will be lucky to get more than 1 club as far as a quarter-final, and that's likely to be down to the draw (therefore we must change the system and increase the salary cap so that we can at least be competitive)" The first narrative is accurate, and should be responded to with a "so what? we don't have an automatic right to be, and these things are cyclical" whilst the first was always hyperbole. NB: I say that as someone who's been wanting to restructure* the top 20-24 English clubs for the best part of 20 years. * 10 on top, 14 below, "proper" competition between the two, proper exposure for both. Concentrate talent at the top, increase variety of opposition, increase exposure to knock-out rugby. [/QUOTE]
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