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<blockquote data-quote="munstermuffin" data-source="post: 1171561" data-attributes="member: 39240"><p>Will start at top.</p><p>Maybe educate yourself.</p><p>I am Irish. I come from a failed programme?? My province is current URC champions so we had success there. My country is Ireland which are current 6Nations champions and probably the best european national team over the last 5 years or so.</p><p></p><p>La Rochelle literally spend massive on their staff. 3 with Munster roots, 2 on more than all 4 head coaches in Ireland, and a squad that has all been purchased in. So again that is false. A staff can look good if not needing to develop players. </p><p></p><p>Leinster are not a financial giant compared to French clubs they are relatively small and benefit from a well drilled system that filters to schools level. All local and like Toulouse. La Rochelle are not in same league as those 2.</p><p></p><p>Also success of Toulon and La Rochelle is down to money because after money slows the club fades away. See that the difference between good structures and throwing money around. And I'd argue English clubs overall have much better structures academy wise etc than French.</p><p></p><p>Also for French dominance, french teams have 11, English teams have 10</p><p>And Irish teams 7. And 5 French wins were french teams (Toulon and La Rochelle) that had no local heart to it.</p><p></p><p>If you ask me you're right French teams aren't getting bang for the buck.</p><p></p><p>Look at all winners who won had local heart. They are cups won not bought and the pride is better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="munstermuffin, post: 1171561, member: 39240"] Will start at top. Maybe educate yourself. I am Irish. I come from a failed programme?? My province is current URC champions so we had success there. My country is Ireland which are current 6Nations champions and probably the best european national team over the last 5 years or so. La Rochelle literally spend massive on their staff. 3 with Munster roots, 2 on more than all 4 head coaches in Ireland, and a squad that has all been purchased in. So again that is false. A staff can look good if not needing to develop players. Leinster are not a financial giant compared to French clubs they are relatively small and benefit from a well drilled system that filters to schools level. All local and like Toulouse. La Rochelle are not in same league as those 2. Also success of Toulon and La Rochelle is down to money because after money slows the club fades away. See that the difference between good structures and throwing money around. And I'd argue English clubs overall have much better structures academy wise etc than French. Also for French dominance, french teams have 11, English teams have 10 And Irish teams 7. And 5 French wins were french teams (Toulon and La Rochelle) that had no local heart to it. If you ask me you're right French teams aren't getting bang for the buck. Look at all winners who won had local heart. They are cups won not bought and the pride is better. [/QUOTE]
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