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<blockquote data-quote="dullonien" data-source="post: 502282" data-attributes="member: 13739"><p>You're simplifying the rules too much. Where do you think the offside line for the players involved in the lineout is? It goes straight through the centre of the lineout. Therefore none of those Crusaders players were offside. Secondly, there was no ruck or maul to join, just a bunch of players huddled together, half of them in front of the ball and thus offside when they eventually come into contact with an opposition player. This really is very basic, so please keep up.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Firstly, of course I know what a slingshot is. Why do you insist on treating me like some kind of idiot? There are very few rules I don't know, or don't understand in the game of rugby.</p><p></p><p>It really doesn't matter what is written in the rule book here, it's how referees ref the scrum. As donmcdazzle has stated, every scrum taking place in rugby involves an engagement. Again, it doesn't matter if the words "early engagement" isn't used in the rule book either, ref's still penalise it. This really is getting very boring, because I'm certain you know exactly what I mean, so this is the last I'm going say about the matter.</p><p></p><p></p><p> lol.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I do agree that this rule variation should be given a chance before being written off. However, what would you like ref's to do about early engagement? Many ref's already award free-kicks, followed by penalties for early engagements, but it rarely helps matters. Hopefully the change in wording will make it easier for the players to time their engagements, but I'm not totally convinced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dullonien, post: 502282, member: 13739"] You're simplifying the rules too much. Where do you think the offside line for the players involved in the lineout is? It goes straight through the centre of the lineout. Therefore none of those Crusaders players were offside. Secondly, there was no ruck or maul to join, just a bunch of players huddled together, half of them in front of the ball and thus offside when they eventually come into contact with an opposition player. This really is very basic, so please keep up. Firstly, of course I know what a slingshot is. Why do you insist on treating me like some kind of idiot? There are very few rules I don't know, or don't understand in the game of rugby. It really doesn't matter what is written in the rule book here, it's how referees ref the scrum. As donmcdazzle has stated, every scrum taking place in rugby involves an engagement. Again, it doesn't matter if the words "early engagement" isn't used in the rule book either, ref's still penalise it. This really is getting very boring, because I'm certain you know exactly what I mean, so this is the last I'm going say about the matter. lol. I do agree that this rule variation should be given a chance before being written off. However, what would you like ref's to do about early engagement? Many ref's already award free-kicks, followed by penalties for early engagements, but it rarely helps matters. Hopefully the change in wording will make it easier for the players to time their engagements, but I'm not totally convinced. [/QUOTE]
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