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<blockquote data-quote="ranger" data-source="post: 318831" data-attributes="member: 40555"><p>We must have been watching different games because to me the musclemen approach England took was shown up by the NZ pack. Sure the English team was bigger (as they are every single year) but the NZ pack was everywhere. </p><p>This was illustrated by Bernie Hall, it seemed like the guy was at every ruck and everytime Robinson or Cruden made a break he was right there to link up. O'Conner was great too but i felt that Hall was NZs best forward.</p><p>Maybe saying he destroyed the english pack was a poor choice of words, he picked them apart. He was quicker to every ruck and his tackle count was ridiculous. He turned over alot of ball and to say his ball running was ineffective is short sighted, he didnt break tackles but he was extremely valuable as a link player.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1cbXplXBy4&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1cbXplXBy4&feature=related</a></p><p>This is the only clip i could find but it shows Hall turning over the ball in the first play of the game and providing the link between Robinson and Cruden at about 3:00. </p><p>Honestly, every year it is the same tactic from England, pick the biggest players possible.</p><p></p><p>As for Tyler, he isn't the superstar that Cruden was. But you said they didn't have the player to direct the backline. He is arguably <em>better</em> than Cruden at directing the backline. He doesnt have Crudens running ability but he can create for other players and plays a very clever game. Its like comparing Andrew Mehrtens to Carlos Spencer.</p><p>Its not his goalkicking i was talking about either, it was his tactical kicking game. He has a long punt and is very accurate off both feet. He would be a superstar in the northern hemisphre. Ive played against him a few times and his ability to kick for the corners and land it in the exact right spot is uncanny. Hes pretty much the opposite to Cruden</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ranger, post: 318831, member: 40555"] We must have been watching different games because to me the musclemen approach England took was shown up by the NZ pack. Sure the English team was bigger (as they are every single year) but the NZ pack was everywhere. This was illustrated by Bernie Hall, it seemed like the guy was at every ruck and everytime Robinson or Cruden made a break he was right there to link up. O'Conner was great too but i felt that Hall was NZs best forward. Maybe saying he destroyed the english pack was a poor choice of words, he picked them apart. He was quicker to every ruck and his tackle count was ridiculous. He turned over alot of ball and to say his ball running was ineffective is short sighted, he didnt break tackles but he was extremely valuable as a link player. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1cbXplXBy4&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1cbXplXBy4&feature=related[/URL] This is the only clip i could find but it shows Hall turning over the ball in the first play of the game and providing the link between Robinson and Cruden at about 3:00. Honestly, every year it is the same tactic from England, pick the biggest players possible. As for Tyler, he isn't the superstar that Cruden was. But you said they didn't have the player to direct the backline. He is arguably [I]better[/I] than Cruden at directing the backline. He doesnt have Crudens running ability but he can create for other players and plays a very clever game. Its like comparing Andrew Mehrtens to Carlos Spencer. Its not his goalkicking i was talking about either, it was his tactical kicking game. He has a long punt and is very accurate off both feet. He would be a superstar in the northern hemisphre. Ive played against him a few times and his ability to kick for the corners and land it in the exact right spot is uncanny. Hes pretty much the opposite to Cruden [/QUOTE]
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