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2024 Guinness Six Nations
Ireland vs France - 09/03/2013
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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 554428" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>What matches did Humphreys's "fall to pieces"?</p><p></p><p>I was watching a few Ireland matches from the Gatland era back from about 2001 era lately, and I don't see Humphreys hiding on the wing either. Watch this video of his man of the match performance in the win over Wales in 2001 (note that Humphreys returned to the side after Ireland cost themselves a Grand Slam by losing to Scotland the week before where O'Gara was poor and dropped). His tactical kicking was up on a level with O'Gara, he had 100% success goal kicking, and also if you watch at about a minute in, Humphreys makes in the words of Bill McLaren a "thumping crash tackle" to stop a Welsh attack which ROG could only dream of making. He was by no means a defender along the level of Wilkinson and I'm not saying he did that every match, but he was above the level of O'Gara tackling (which isn't that hard to be fair).</p><p></p><p>[media=youtube]degg74c8FIg[/media]</p><p></p><p>Note that Humphreys played most of the first half of his career in a poor Ireland side in the mid to late 1990's. He only got a 2 or so years with the improved Ireland side. Whilst O'Gara played with that side at it's peak as well as one of the best sides in European rugby history. If O'Gara had been in the weaker Ulster side, or Ireland in the 1990's, then he would have probably fell to pieces like he is doing now that Munster have declined, and like he did famously in the Lions 2009 series.</p><p></p><p>So what was it that made O'Gara better other than playing in a better side for his career?</p><p></p><p>And Humphreys was relegated to number 2 after RWC 2003 because he of his age was 32 after that tournament. By the way, I'm not saying Humphreys was miles better than O'Gara, but just O'Gara was one of the most overrated players of his generation, Humphreys was at least as good if not better than O'Gara. There is debate as to whether O'Gara is the best of the professional era, it's not clear cut as some make it out to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 554428, member: 48703"] What matches did Humphreys's "fall to pieces"? I was watching a few Ireland matches from the Gatland era back from about 2001 era lately, and I don't see Humphreys hiding on the wing either. Watch this video of his man of the match performance in the win over Wales in 2001 (note that Humphreys returned to the side after Ireland cost themselves a Grand Slam by losing to Scotland the week before where O'Gara was poor and dropped). His tactical kicking was up on a level with O'Gara, he had 100% success goal kicking, and also if you watch at about a minute in, Humphreys makes in the words of Bill McLaren a "thumping crash tackle" to stop a Welsh attack which ROG could only dream of making. He was by no means a defender along the level of Wilkinson and I'm not saying he did that every match, but he was above the level of O'Gara tackling (which isn't that hard to be fair). [media=youtube]degg74c8FIg[/media] Note that Humphreys played most of the first half of his career in a poor Ireland side in the mid to late 1990's. He only got a 2 or so years with the improved Ireland side. Whilst O'Gara played with that side at it's peak as well as one of the best sides in European rugby history. If O'Gara had been in the weaker Ulster side, or Ireland in the 1990's, then he would have probably fell to pieces like he is doing now that Munster have declined, and like he did famously in the Lions 2009 series. So what was it that made O'Gara better other than playing in a better side for his career? And Humphreys was relegated to number 2 after RWC 2003 because he of his age was 32 after that tournament. By the way, I'm not saying Humphreys was miles better than O'Gara, but just O'Gara was one of the most overrated players of his generation, Humphreys was at least as good if not better than O'Gara. There is debate as to whether O'Gara is the best of the professional era, it's not clear cut as some make it out to be. [/QUOTE]
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