No-one is saying this England team is a finished article...the players themselves have admitted they are shocked they've come this far.
This world cup, whether we win or lose the final, can be used as a platform to put the past for years behind us.
I don't get a sense that we are getting carried away, the team can't be accused of believing it's own press 'cause we've not done any bigging ourselves up.
But Ashton is a realist and I think the squad are too...the feel good factor is back and so now they'll get on with the job in hand. We have a platform now that's all..........but there's an outside chance that platform will have a nice shiny gold trophy on it come Saturday night. Embarresed? I think our aim was to at least get out of the group and not get stomped by Australia, that's all most people were hoping for. You look at the way the Kiwis, Aussies and Irish were bigging themselves up beforehand that's when you end up with egg on your face.
In 2003 the team made themselves undroppable...there is nothing like with this team. Definitely not the backs division anyway. The rebuilding will continue after this world cup win or lose.
i know!! fair play what ever happens england should be very proud of what they done at this wc, cos they have stw as brian ashton wanted his men to do. But there is a big underlying problem in english rugby, and its got to be said that the raw talent that english rugby has isnt being developed as it should be, nd to the extent it should be. [/b]