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Tony Manx

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If you do not know anything about it.....watch ITV 4 at 21.00 UK or ITV 4+1 an hour later....great programme and interesting to watch riders average 132 mph .....yes mph....over 37 miles including a climb from sea level to nearly 2000 feet on public roads...............they are closed for the racing!!
 
Ah come on lads (and ladies) there must be some motorheads out there who love speed......................there has been some fantasticulous riding from Micheal Dunlop on the 30th anniversary of his late Uncle's first victory..............four victories in the week so far with another to come tomorrow...............
 
Always been a big motorcycle fan, but never got around to watching the TT races. Always thought it would be a blast, based on what I have seen.
Bit of a bike fan, Tony?
 
Hate the bloody things!!

Have a Quad which is THE most dangerous piece of motor that you could ever have and have only ridden an actual motor bike for about 200 metres.......did take on the Bonnevilles and Nortons on the mountain course on Mad Sunday, many years ago, when the road over the mountain is made one way for safety.

Mind you I was on a Vespa 125 and took all the racing lines.....should have seen the very rude gestures I got from the passengers on the bikes who's racing line I thoroughly screwed!!

Wonderful fortnight to be on the IOM with much entertainment for some 20+k bikers who's average age is at least 40!!
 
Hah, yeah those big Norton twins could munch the Vespa alive. Have a 750 Triumph that I am restoring ATM. Don't think I'd have the heart to take it out on the IoM course.

Biggest problem with quads is every nut with one thinks they can do anything, blasting them down paths and subsequently painting trees.
 
Hah, yeah those big Norton twins could munch the Vespa alive. Have a 750 Triumph that I am restoring ATM. Don't think I'd have the heart to take it out on the IoM course.

Biggest problem with quads is every nut with one thinks they can do anything, blasting them down paths and subsequently painting trees.

Get it over and have a blast.......you will make a hell of a lot of new friends as most of the guys would love to see that................bit like taking J Lo to a party!!
 
Hate the bloody things!!

Have a Quad which is THE most dangerous piece of motor that you could ever have and have only ridden an actual motor bike for about 200 metres.......did take on the Bonnevilles and Nortons on the mountain course on Mad Sunday, many years ago, when the road over the mountain is made one way for safety.

Mind you I was on a Vespa 125 and took all the racing lines.....should have seen the very rude gestures I got from the passengers on the bikes who's racing line I thoroughly screwed!!

Wonderful fortnight to be on the IOM with much entertainment for some 20+k bikers who's average age is at least 40!!

We have a quad as well, they are pretty dangerous but the old three wheeled ATV's were even more so, I'm not even sure if you can find them around much anymore they were so bad. Lots of people around here have quads, and dirtbikes due to the rural/small town nature of most of Niagara. I've heard of this Isle of Man race but unfortunately have never seen it live, the highlights are pretty amazing though, the island itself is one of those places I'd like to go to but 99.9999% won't ever make it to....I also like the way they honoured me with the name of their capital city....
 
My uncle has a quad on his farm, just a standard Yamaha I think. I've had a few goes on it and got a bit of confidence and started going a bit faster and harder, then I felt myself losing balance and the quad was tipping, I just about kept it on four wheels I don't know how I did it. I was lucky as **** though considering I wasn't wearing a helmet or any protection, I was just in jeans and a t-shirt. Anyway I got off immediately a bit shaken and haven't been on it since. I'm heading up to help him around the farm next month so I reckon I'll hop on and get over my fear!
 
Reports that bad accident, including spectators hurt, has stopped the prestigous Senior TT finale race.....apparently a later starter has gone into the crowd on Bray Hill which is about 500 metres from the start and the big boys are hitting over 150 mph there...................
 
Manx Radio reporting rider is OK but a spectator has been seriously injured and is on way to hospital.....riders on course being escorted back to pits by travelling marshalls for restart when appropriate.................
 
11 spectators taken to hospital but none with life threatening injuries.........biker hit protective barriers, bike disintegrated and various bits hit spectators and some even went across the road into the window of the house opposite. Thank God no one dead but hope the one seriously injured makes speedy recovery.....Police are not investigating as "a racing incident"....................
 
Just a reminder for any "motorheads" that it is that time of the year again and the TT is in full swing with some 40,000 bikers and supporters on the Island for this week.............you can catch it all again on ITV4 at 21.00 BST most nights although it is 22.00 on one night!!

So far many thrills and spills but no deaths which is good if unusual!

Tour de France soon Taff!!
 
Not to be a killjoy (ok yes I am) but road racing should be banned...both bike and cars.

Joey and Robert Dunlop both killed. Joey one of the greatest. The road surfaces are too unpredictable. They are not suited for racing and are thus a death-trap. Car rally's with the spectators standing on the edge of roads are also incredibly dangerous as we witnessed at the weekend.
 
Not to be a killjoy (ok yes I am) but road racing should be banned...both bike and cars.

Joey and Robert Dunlop both killed. Joey one of the greatest. The road surfaces are too unpredictable. They are not suited for racing and are thus a death-trap. Car rally's with the spectators standing on the edge of roads are also incredibly dangerous as we witnessed at the weekend.

Yawn.................please consider how many racing miles are covered in road racing and rallying per death......a bit like saying all cars or flights or trains should be banned as they tend to crash and kill people!!!

In fact, I do not go to the TT as I grew up with it and worked at it for a number of year at the grandstand catering and am, frankly, now bored by it but have to defend the right of people to do it, attend it and spectate at it.

There are some 40,000 bikers here who go round and round the TT course that is used in the races as they are open roads and they love it...out of the hundreds of thousands of people who come over there is but a very small percentage who are the lunatics who cause or are involved in accidents. To these guys it is about the atmosphere, the entertainment on and off the course and the camaradie of the other visitors that makes their annual pilgrimage (from many parts of the world) so enjoyable.

Why do do-gooders like you wish to spoil the enjoyment of the vast majority because of the actions of a few...........

PS Neither Dunlop was killed in the IOM and Joey should really have retired as he was, with all respect, passed it at 48 before he went to Estonia to race in atrocious conditions.....Robert died at the North west when he returned to racing after a number of years gap against all sorts of advice. Very sad for both them and their families.
 
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The races belong on race tracks though surely. The isle of man TT is obviously a great event and brings a lot of joy to people, but street roads are not suitable for racing. Young fella lost his life here only a few weeks back. Regardless of how skilled these riders are the conditions take it out of their hands.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/motogp/27701661

Isle of Man TT is 'like death race', says MotoGP's Scott Redding

MotoGP's Scott Redding will not appear in Friday's Isle of Man TT parade lap after describing the event as "like a death race" after two riders died.
Bob Price, 65, from Redding's hometown of Gloucester, was killed in an accident during the first Supersport race on 2 June.
Three-time British champion Karl Harris, 34, died in a crash on Tuesday.
Redding, 21, said on Twitter:* "This is not racing anymore. It's like a death race. Lost too many friends."
He added: "All the riders that finish are relieved to finish in one piece and see their loved ones."




I realise that thousands enjoy the event, but the risk for the riders is too high surely. I've seen it up close (near Cookstown) and its a great spectacle, but these fellas should not be racing on public roads. Not just the unpredictable surface, there is no safety barriers..one tiny error and that's it. The isle of man obviously relies on the TT for tourism...could an alternative event not be created with a purpose built track?
 
MotoGP's Scott Redding will not appear in Friday's Isle of Man TT parade lap after describing the event as "like a death race" after two riders died....................could an alternative event not be created with a purpose built track?

1. The reason that Redding will not be there on Friday is that he wishes to honour his mentor and friend, the late Bob Price, in his own way. Many "professional" racers (notably Barry Sheene and "The Doc") have a similar viewpoint and a lot of the Manx based Moto GP riders (Crutchlow/ Toseland) would not consider entering.

2. Alternative....NO, you cannot recreate history and that is what the participants feel they are taking part in when competing or even just watching.

I left the IOM yesterday on the boat with some 250 bikers of all nationalities who went to watch just the practices, the Saturday race programme and to do the course on Mad Sunday as they could not get accommodation or make the necessary travel arrangements for the main week but all I spoke to said they would be there again next year and be exhorting their mates to come with them.

I also asked why they thought do people risk their lives on bikes in the race and during the whole "festival" and, almost to a man (and woman), they said it is because "it is there" and "it has to be done"!

Make no mistake, I believe that it is also past its sell by date with the advance on power (matched by similar advances in engine reliability and braking it has to be said) but I do feel that everyone, in terms of the TT and many other things, should be able to do what they want PROVIDED that:

- the maximum safety precautions that can be taken are taken, which they are;

- that the maximum health and safety considerations are put into effect, which they are;

- that everyone involved as racers, marshalls, and spectators are made aware of the risks, which they are;

- that everything from the road surface to traffic furniture is made as safe as possible, which they are (indeed the course roads stand as a beacon amongst the otherwise badly maintained roads in the IOM).

I like most, if not all, Manx people deeply feel for the families of those deprived of their loved ones BUT there are so many comments from those very same relatives who say that he/she died doing what they wanted and they would not have had it any other way........

I applaud all that participate...even if I think they are totally mad, I applaud their loved ones who "allow" them to take part, I respect the freedom to allow people to risk their lives..............I just would not want to do it myself or allow any of MY loved ones to do it, and if they did, support them doing it!

Ban it..................I would be the first at the barricades as I would for any attempt to ban the Pamplona bull run, the Mexican Cliff Diving etc etc!
 
Caught the highlights yesterday, and they had 'point of view' cameras on some of the bikes.

Bloody terrifying!
 
Caught the highlights yesterday, and they had 'point of view' cameras on some of the bikes.

Bloody terrifying!

ITV4 Coverage has been unbelievable all week of the races.....including catching the unfortunate crashes of William Dunlop on the mountain and the sidecar leader who's name I forget........unbelievably all OK although Dunlop is on crutches!

It is a sad fact that two people lost their lives on the track but that is down on the average and there would appear to be no loss of life off the track for the first time I can remember which is fantastic and, considering there were some 30+ thousand visitors reportedly there, credit to the coppers who were out in force around the course - they may have spoilt some fun for some but allowed all to go home to their families!!
 

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