Jaffa Cake

Discussion in 'The Clubhouse Bar' started by feicarsinn, Nov 21, 2008.

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Cake Or Biscuit

  1. Cake

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  2. Biscuit

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  1. feicarsinn

    feicarsinn Guest

    so this is a running debate we've been having in school over the last month or so. its ended in some fairly big violence actually :D so what do ya think i will puch anyone who says its a biscuit i mean its in the name.

    so trf decide
     
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  3. Sir Speedy

    Sir Speedy Guest

    It's a small cake.
    In no way is it a biscuit. Your schoolmates are deluded. -.-
     
  4. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    Ut oh... Can't you ask something easier like "which came first, the chicken or the egg"...?


    This will never end!
     
  5. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    It's a biscuit. You can't have a cake that small. it's base is very biscuity...just because you add some stuff on top dosn't stop it being a biscuit
     
  6. Fa'atau82

    Fa'atau82 Guest

    It's a cake.. because the biscuit is not hard enough to call it a proper biscuit.
     
  7. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    I submit, change my vote.

    There was a case taken by Customs and Excise in England in the early 90s for tax reasons (no tax on cakes) against McVities claiming that it was a biscuit though they (McVities) classified it as a cake. And I'm serious about this....there was a focking tribunal, a tribunal worthy of Ireland

    As they say "If you want a great musical go to Broadway
    If you want a great drama go to the Westend
    wWant to see a Tribunal, head to Dublin


    Anyway, tribunal found that it's a cake, mainly because a biscuit goes soft when stale and a cake goes hard. Jaffa Cakes go hard. It's a cake.
     
  8. cyRil

    cyRil Guest

    Where's the 'Who gives a ****?' option?
     
  9. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cyRil of Ospreylia @ Nov 21 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Custom's and Excise give a **** B)
     
  10. RC

    RC Guest

    I think it's obvious that it's a cake.

    The two main things to remember between the two: -

    When a cake is out of date it goes hard.
    When a biscuit is out of date it goes soft.

    I think that answers your question as to whether or not a Jaffa Cake is a cake or a biscuit.
     
  11. Ripper

    Ripper Guest

    Its quite obviously a Cookie. Your both wrong.
     
  12. It's a cake.

    Anyone who says otherwise is a Communist.
     
  13. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (St Helens RLFC @ Nov 22 2008, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Biscuits for everyone!
     
  14. dullonien

    dullonien Guest

    Uum, it's a cake!

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Nov 21 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    The egg came first, how could it be anything else?
     
  15. el_tk

    el_tk Guest

    The hint is in the name
     
  16. From Wikipeadia

    Under UK law, no VAT is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT at 17.5%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts.[6] This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"

    McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a giant Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes.

    McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, inter alia, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes.

    Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes.[7


    Given the tax man is never ever ever wrong, I guess we can close this thread :lol:
     
  17. RC

    RC Guest

    I'd already proved without doubt and with substantial evidence that it's a cake!
    Lol.
     
  18. cyRil

    cyRil Guest

    I want a Jaffa Cake now.
     
  19. As a former tax man myself, I can tell you that the tax man is frequently wrong!
     
  20. USA_Rugby

    USA_Rugby Guest

    I love those! Even though I'm an American...

    I think it's a cookie by American standards.

    Of the poll, it's definately a biscuit in my book. As monkeypigeon said, it's just a biscuit with orange and chocolate on top. It's still a biscuit.

    If a Jaffa Cake is a cake, then wouldn't Hob Nobs count as cakes too?
     
  21. RC

    RC Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (USA_Rugby @ Nov 30 2008, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    You're very wrong.
    It's a cake.
    The name says so and the definition of the product proves it to be that.
    It's not a biscuit.
     
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