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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 815873" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>I think that one of South African Rugby's key problems is, and will continue to be, political interference in player selections, not just at the international level, but at all levels of the game. Its the elephant in the room. When coaches have their hands forced by having to meet selection quotas based on skin colour, it will always compromise their ability to put the best team on the park.</p><p></p><p>Now, I might well be labelled a racist for suggesting this, but I don't care because its the truth. The proportion of rugby players of colour compared with their overall population in South Africa is much smaller than for white players, its a simple fact, and if you don't think that quotas based on ethnicity & skin colour would have a serious impact on a team, try the following for an exercise.</p><p></p><p> Imagine that New Zealand had a quota system and that the squad of 23 for the All Blacks had to match as closely as possible, the ethnic make up of the general population.</p><p></p><p>Using very simplified, but accurate statistics from StatisticsNZ</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Pacific Islands 6.9%</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #008000">Asian 9.2%</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Maori 14.6%</span></strong></p><p><strong>European 69%</strong></p><p></p><p>So we apply this to the last Alll Blacks squad that played Australia (names colored as appropriate)</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>1. J. P. T. Moody</strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">2. D. S. Coles</span></strong></p><p><strong>3. O. T. Franks</strong></p><p><strong>4. B. A. Retallick</strong></p><p><strong>5. S. L. Whitelock</strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">6. J. Kaino</span></strong></p><p><strong>7. S. J. Cane</strong></p><p><strong>8. K. J. Read</strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">9. A. L. Smith</span></strong></p><p><strong>10. B. J. Barrett</strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #FF0000">11. S. J. Savea</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">12. A. Lienert-Brown</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">13. M. F. Fekitoa</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">14. I. J. A. Dagg</span></strong></p><p><strong>15. B. R. Smith</strong></p><p><strong>16. J. W. Parsons</strong></p><p><strong>17. W. W. V. Crockett</strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">18. C. Faumuina</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">19. L. I. Squire</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">20. A. Savea</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">21. T. T. R. Perenara</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">22. A. W. Cruden</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">23. S. Tamanivalu</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>Using the stats above </p><p></p><p>16 players have to be European (only 10 are, so six non-white players would have to be dropped)</p><p>Only two players are allowed to be Pacific Islanders and there are six, (so four of the dropped players would be among them)</p><p>Only three players can be Maori and seven are so four of them have to be dropped.</p><p>There are NO players of Asian ethnicity, and there must be a minimum if two, so someone else has to be dropped to make way for them.</p><p></p><p>All I can say is, thank God we don't have the political interference in our sports teams selections that South Africa has.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 815873, member: 20605"] I think that one of South African Rugby's key problems is, and will continue to be, political interference in player selections, not just at the international level, but at all levels of the game. Its the elephant in the room. When coaches have their hands forced by having to meet selection quotas based on skin colour, it will always compromise their ability to put the best team on the park. Now, I might well be labelled a racist for suggesting this, but I don't care because its the truth. The proportion of rugby players of colour compared with their overall population in South Africa is much smaller than for white players, its a simple fact, and if you don't think that quotas based on ethnicity & skin colour would have a serious impact on a team, try the following for an exercise. Imagine that New Zealand had a quota system and that the squad of 23 for the All Blacks had to match as closely as possible, the ethnic make up of the general population. Using very simplified, but accurate statistics from StatisticsNZ [B][COLOR=#ff0000]Pacific Islands 6.9%[/COLOR] [COLOR=#008000]Asian 9.2%[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Maori 14.6%[/COLOR] European 69%[/B] So we apply this to the last Alll Blacks squad that played Australia (names colored as appropriate) [B] 1. J. P. T. Moody [COLOR=#0000ff]2. D. S. Coles[/COLOR] 3. O. T. Franks 4. B. A. Retallick 5. S. L. Whitelock [COLOR=#ff0000]6. J. Kaino[/COLOR] 7. S. J. Cane 8. K. J. Read [COLOR=#0000ff]9. A. L. Smith[/COLOR] 10. B. J. Barrett [COLOR=#FF0000]11. S. J. Savea[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]12. A. Lienert-Brown[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]13. M. F. Fekitoa[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]14. I. J. A. Dagg[/COLOR] 15. B. R. Smith 16. J. W. Parsons 17. W. W. V. Crockett [COLOR=#ff0000]18. C. Faumuina[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]19. L. I. Squire[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]20. A. Savea[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]21. T. T. R. Perenara[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]22. A. W. Cruden[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]23. S. Tamanivalu[/COLOR][/B] Using the stats above 16 players have to be European (only 10 are, so six non-white players would have to be dropped) Only two players are allowed to be Pacific Islanders and there are six, (so four of the dropped players would be among them) Only three players can be Maori and seven are so four of them have to be dropped. There are NO players of Asian ethnicity, and there must be a minimum if two, so someone else has to be dropped to make way for them. All I can say is, thank God we don't have the political interference in our sports teams selections that South Africa has. [/QUOTE]
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