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June International Test: Australia vs. England [2nd Test] (18/06/2016)
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<blockquote data-quote="Pieter Steph du Teague" data-source="post: 803060" data-attributes="member: 72520"><p>I see your point with the backline, and won't argue against it, what I said was more a thought than a criticism, however I entirely disagree on Billy. England's over use of him and the under use of anyone else in the tight, ball-carrying areas has led to Oz coming up with their game plan to beat him. You say that it takes 2-3 men to bring him down, this is true, but they've countered that by not putting men into the ruck when he's tackled, to nullify their not being there, thus meaning that him carrying, in reality has achieved next to nothing, as when Oz have him on such a tight leash, he can go nowhere. And I don't think anyone would disagree that beyond Billy, some of our packs ball carrying is atrocious, as someone has previously said, "I've seen phone boxes with more agility than Dan Cole." Lumps like him simply don't make ground, however if we got players like him offloading to an on charging Billy or Haskell, then we would immediately become a much more dominant carrying force. </p><p></p><p>All I'm saying is that, although our play at the moment is clearly doing well for us, our pack could become so much more impressive with some little tweaks. We have some absolute monsters amongst our forwards, and they definitely do a job for us, but I believe that they could really step it up a notch with the use of some basic skill amongst them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pieter Steph du Teague, post: 803060, member: 72520"] I see your point with the backline, and won't argue against it, what I said was more a thought than a criticism, however I entirely disagree on Billy. England's over use of him and the under use of anyone else in the tight, ball-carrying areas has led to Oz coming up with their game plan to beat him. You say that it takes 2-3 men to bring him down, this is true, but they've countered that by not putting men into the ruck when he's tackled, to nullify their not being there, thus meaning that him carrying, in reality has achieved next to nothing, as when Oz have him on such a tight leash, he can go nowhere. And I don't think anyone would disagree that beyond Billy, some of our packs ball carrying is atrocious, as someone has previously said, "I've seen phone boxes with more agility than Dan Cole." Lumps like him simply don't make ground, however if we got players like him offloading to an on charging Billy or Haskell, then we would immediately become a much more dominant carrying force. All I'm saying is that, although our play at the moment is clearly doing well for us, our pack could become so much more impressive with some little tweaks. We have some absolute monsters amongst our forwards, and they definitely do a job for us, but I believe that they could really step it up a notch with the use of some basic skill amongst them. [/QUOTE]
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