[June Tests 2018: 1st Test] Australia vs. Ireland (09/06/2018)

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  1. noah_jo

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    Elderly people are also far wiser. That's how they know that winning a grandslam doesn't mean that ur the dogs ********, only way from here is down :cool:
     
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    The only forward I'd retain in the starting XV is POM next week, I'd reunite Cooney and Sexbaby and bring Ringrose in. I don't really know what to do with the back three, Sexy Rob needs a break, he was wrecked after 25 last week and Stockdale has to play all three tests just to make sure we have a back three player over 6ft. I'd like to see Conway in with Carbery at 15 to keep a bit of height as well as having the strongest fielder but I can't see that happening.
    We actually closed our borders, Eddie Jones Syndrome hasn't spread here!
     
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    Yet left open the secret passage under the whomping willow that leads directly from our Carrington training centre to the IRFUs treasury
     
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    Thats your imagination. I don't see all NH fans blaming the ref. In fact in my post you quoted I didn't mention the ref once.
     
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    This is 100% correct IMO.

    Yes, it did have impact on the try; it would not have been scored at all IF the referee had seen the dangerous tackle at the time it happened. The play would have been stopped and Coleman would have been penalised right there, just as he was.

    And for the removal of doubt, tackling a player without the ball is foul play

    Law 9: FOUL PLAY

    Dangerous Play
    13. A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously.

    14. A player must not tackle an opponent who is not in possession of the ball.


    Also, there is no such thing as a technicality when dealing with foul play... it always trumps materiality. If Coleman had punched the Green player instead of tackling him without the ball, who here thinks that play would have been allowed to continue and the try scored?
     
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    No, the TMO protocols don't work like that

    For Foul Play, the Referee, ARs and TMO can go back as far as the last time the ball was dead (e.g. in touch or the game was stopped for some other reason), but no further.

    For other types of non foul play infringements
    such as a knock-ons, forward passes, offside, hands in the ruck, not rolling away, side entry, not releasing etc, they can only go back two phases (being the current phase at the time the call is made, back to the second most recent ruck, maul. In the examples below, they can only go back as far as the red ruck

    ruck : open play (knock on) : ruck : open play (try scored)
    - Try disallowed for the knock on

    However..

    ruck : open play (knock on) : ruck : open play : ruck : open play (try scored)
    - Try stands

    Also, of course, you cannot adjust the score without affecting the play. If you retrospectively disallow a try, this would have resulted in the game restarting in a different place (penaty, 22 droput, lineout instead of a halfway restart). This means you cannot predict how that change will affect the rest of the game.
     
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    4 Games, The Scotland game, wasn't really classed as a proper test game IMO.
     
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    Cause they're not a real country?
     
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    Yep, and also Ireland is two countries therefore shouldn't count.
     
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    Babas isnt a test match, France are actually **** and we were giving them a confidence boost, and the SA game was cause of the ref, so our last legit game was against Wales.
    Last loss was in 2015 as a result :cool:
     
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    None of these countries count because they've never had an empire.
    Get back to me when we lose to Mongolia or Rome(/Italy) or Russia or China, someone who actually matters.
     
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    France?
     
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    Also games against Aus, NZ, Ireland, Scotland and Wales (or any other ex English country) are basically just intra squad friendlies anyway
     
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    Never heard of them having an empire?
     
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    What's the difference between a prostitute and the 2015 English team?
    1. A prostitute wouldn't drool when she chokes
    2. A prostitute usually knows better than to get ridden in her own home.
    Sure wee Napoleon was an emperor, was he not?
     
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    The Colonial Empires counts surely. North Africa (19th century), North America (16th century) and South East Asia (Both) were all largely French.
     
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    I had to scroll down the list of Largest empires to find France that my finger got cramp.


    (They're sixth, get at me when they're in the top 5).
     
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    There's a lot to be said for the Mongol empire, as although they probably would have killed millions of your ancestors if given the chance, you also wouldn't be alive, and thus would never have read a single Tigs Man post.
     
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    What the F is this? A history lesson,
    Emporors,
    Colonies,
    England winning SH tours

    Come back to the present lads
     
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