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[June Tests 2018: 2nd Test] New Zealand vs. France (16/06/2018)
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<blockquote data-quote="Not Mike Brown&#039;s Sock" data-source="post: 907255" data-attributes="member: 72041"><p>Yeah actually that was a strange moment, I know the Aussies got criticised for it last week, but I think Folau was winding people up. The double stamp in the u20s yesterday kinda cements the point that there may be a culture issue though. I mean surely after huge criticism of the Senior Squad, those in the u20s should be taking extra care not to be doing anything thuggish. On it's own, it doesn't bother me too much, although he should be cited (but won't), but just after last week it starts to look pretty bad.</p><p>As a ref Rob Debney suggested a couple days ago that he thinks there may be a subconscious leniency towards the All Blacks by referees because of the scrutiny that they come under if the ABs lose, which is what I was saying in the last thread about all dominant teams getting the benefit of the doubt. I'm happy to admit that England were beneficiaries of that when we were on our winning run, our breakdown troubles have been there for a while, we just didn't get penalized for it by refs when we were winning. The lions were also probably beneficiaries of that in the last couple minutes of that tour as well. It Happens.</p><p></p><p>I will make sure to read that book, but it still seems that there is a culture issue in the AB set up as a whole. There is playing on the edge of the laws (or just hiding the fact that you are breaking them) for sporting superiority, like McCaw was so good at doing, but outright thuggery is a big problem as it brings the game into disrepute.</p><p></p><p>Stamping in u20's.</p><p>Swining arm in u20's to the head of a french player.</p><p>Shoulder to the head of a french player, fracturing his skull in two places</p><p></p><p>Not a good week all in all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Not Mike Brown's Sock, post: 907255, member: 72041"] Yeah actually that was a strange moment, I know the Aussies got criticised for it last week, but I think Folau was winding people up. The double stamp in the u20s yesterday kinda cements the point that there may be a culture issue though. I mean surely after huge criticism of the Senior Squad, those in the u20s should be taking extra care not to be doing anything thuggish. On it's own, it doesn't bother me too much, although he should be cited (but won't), but just after last week it starts to look pretty bad. As a ref Rob Debney suggested a couple days ago that he thinks there may be a subconscious leniency towards the All Blacks by referees because of the scrutiny that they come under if the ABs lose, which is what I was saying in the last thread about all dominant teams getting the benefit of the doubt. I'm happy to admit that England were beneficiaries of that when we were on our winning run, our breakdown troubles have been there for a while, we just didn't get penalized for it by refs when we were winning. The lions were also probably beneficiaries of that in the last couple minutes of that tour as well. It Happens. I will make sure to read that book, but it still seems that there is a culture issue in the AB set up as a whole. There is playing on the edge of the laws (or just hiding the fact that you are breaking them) for sporting superiority, like McCaw was so good at doing, but outright thuggery is a big problem as it brings the game into disrepute. Stamping in u20's. Swining arm in u20's to the head of a french player. Shoulder to the head of a french player, fracturing his skull in two places Not a good week all in all. [/QUOTE]
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