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<blockquote data-quote="RWC2011Fan" data-source="post: 623238" data-attributes="member: 58667"><p>I'd say the atmosphere generated by Clermont and Toulon fans is way up there. Check these out:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-l8FkQeT1M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-l8FkQeT1M</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61d21oWtcI8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61d21oWtcI8</a></p><p></p><p>Test Matches at Millennium Stadium are meant to be amazing as well:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM4mIlYKG9s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM4mIlYKG9s</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTuR7Pr9Csg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTuR7Pr9Csg</a></p><p></p><p>I know I'm getting carried away here, but Ireland vs. Argentina in Paris always sticks out in my mind:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM0ODNxq-Ic" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM0ODNxq-Ic</a></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Oh, and how could I forget this:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdLPuywBLUg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdLPuywBLUg</a></p><p>I think it'll be a long time before we ever see a rugby crowd react like that again. Too bad they lost...reminds me of the NZ game last year.</p><p></p><p>On a side note, I've heard the atmosphere for England internationals at Wembley ain't so hot.</p><p></p><p>I've always been rather envious of the atmosphere at rugby matches up in the northern hemisphere. As the number one nation in rugby, you'd think NZ would be up there in terms of fans and crowds. With the exception of when the world cup was here, this is unfortunately not the case. Going to Super Rugby games is fairly forgettable (apart from when I saw the Hurricanes vs. the Chiefs in '12), the atmosphere at ITM Cup games is pretty much non-existent, and I've heard All Blacks games are almost equally as bland. I suppose black isn't exactly a very impressive colour to paint a stadium on match-day, but the crowds don't seem all that involved outside of the occasional "All Blacks!" chant. It seems like Australian rugby crowds have gone in a similar direction. The Red, Rebels, and Force seem to have decent fans, but what happened to the days when Wallaby supporters use to belt out "Waltzing Matilda"? Their travelling support is still impressive though. </p><p></p><p>I've seen NZ fans argue that the atmosphere is better at games in the northern hemisphere because nothing's happening on the pitch, so the crowds have to entertain themselves. Whereas in the southern hemisphere, they say more is going on so they're more focussed on watching the game, rather than creating an atmosphere. The thing is though, if you're not there to create an atmosphere at the game, why bother coming out at all? Why not just stay at home and watch it on TV? Atmosphere is meant to be the biggest incentive for coming out and watching a game in the first place. I'm also not fully convinced that the crowds in NZ are actually watching the game. There always seem to be a constant drone during matches, as if the crowd's just engaging in unrelated conversation in between scores. If people were actually watching the match, I'd expect something more along the lines of some of the games in '07 where everyone would sit in silence, but erupt into applause whenever something good happened.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RWC2011Fan, post: 623238, member: 58667"] I'd say the atmosphere generated by Clermont and Toulon fans is way up there. Check these out: [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-l8FkQeT1M[/URL] [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61d21oWtcI8[/URL] Test Matches at Millennium Stadium are meant to be amazing as well: [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM4mIlYKG9s[/URL] [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTuR7Pr9Csg[/URL] I know I'm getting carried away here, but Ireland vs. Argentina in Paris always sticks out in my mind: [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM0ODNxq-Ic[/URL] EDIT: Oh, and how could I forget this: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdLPuywBLUg[/url] I think it'll be a long time before we ever see a rugby crowd react like that again. Too bad they lost...reminds me of the NZ game last year. On a side note, I've heard the atmosphere for England internationals at Wembley ain't so hot. I've always been rather envious of the atmosphere at rugby matches up in the northern hemisphere. As the number one nation in rugby, you'd think NZ would be up there in terms of fans and crowds. With the exception of when the world cup was here, this is unfortunately not the case. Going to Super Rugby games is fairly forgettable (apart from when I saw the Hurricanes vs. the Chiefs in '12), the atmosphere at ITM Cup games is pretty much non-existent, and I've heard All Blacks games are almost equally as bland. I suppose black isn't exactly a very impressive colour to paint a stadium on match-day, but the crowds don't seem all that involved outside of the occasional "All Blacks!" chant. It seems like Australian rugby crowds have gone in a similar direction. The Red, Rebels, and Force seem to have decent fans, but what happened to the days when Wallaby supporters use to belt out "Waltzing Matilda"? Their travelling support is still impressive though. I've seen NZ fans argue that the atmosphere is better at games in the northern hemisphere because nothing's happening on the pitch, so the crowds have to entertain themselves. Whereas in the southern hemisphere, they say more is going on so they're more focussed on watching the game, rather than creating an atmosphere. The thing is though, if you're not there to create an atmosphere at the game, why bother coming out at all? Why not just stay at home and watch it on TV? Atmosphere is meant to be the biggest incentive for coming out and watching a game in the first place. I'm also not fully convinced that the crowds in NZ are actually watching the game. There always seem to be a constant drone during matches, as if the crowd's just engaging in unrelated conversation in between scores. If people were actually watching the match, I'd expect something more along the lines of some of the games in '07 where everyone would sit in silence, but erupt into applause whenever something good happened. [/QUOTE]
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