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<blockquote data-quote="ratsapprentice" data-source="post: 623262" data-attributes="member: 67273"><p>I'd agree that the atmosphere in British rugby can be quite lacking sometimes, there are <em>many</em> different reasons for this IMO.</p><p>It should also be said that the atmosphere can be great!</p><p></p><p>A lot of the people that buy tickets at Twickenham, or have season tickets simply don't follow rugby.</p><p>They go to see England play at Twickenham a few times a year and that's it - I have close friends who do this - it's not conjecture.</p><p>They have a loose understanding of the rules, and virtually no knowledge of their own players... let alone the opposition.</p><p></p><p>I really do not think that the vast majority of people at Twickenham for England games have a very good understanding of the game or any deep emotional attachment to it.</p><p></p><p>In England at least, a lot of the time a lack of atmosphere can be attributed to clubs overreaching in their choice of venue or simply poor stadium design.</p><p>Look at Wasps or Irish, they play in half empty stadiums for the entire season.</p><p></p><p>Wasps in particular suffer from their lack of a proper, appropriate home ground.</p><p>In my opinion they are the only premiership "London..." club deserving of their name - them and Harlequins are the two Urban London clubs.</p><p>They moved away from their core home support base at a time when they should have been consolidating what they had and taking advantage of the enormous (and extremely affluent) local populace.</p><p>On top of that they moved to a ****-hole stadium.</p><p></p><p>The best atmospheres are found at clubs that have not moved around: Quins, Gloucester, Tigers, Saints and Chiefs for example.</p><p></p><p>On top of that the design of stadiums is generally poor IMO.</p><p>Seats are generally too far away and the stands feel too open.</p><p>The field should feel enveloped by the crowd.</p><p></p><p>The middle class nature of the sport in England doesn't help with regards to crowd "rowdiness" but this is of minor significance IMO.</p><p>Too many clubs have not had the stability needed to foster strong emotional ties with their fans.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ratsapprentice, post: 623262, member: 67273"] I'd agree that the atmosphere in British rugby can be quite lacking sometimes, there are [I]many[/I] different reasons for this IMO. It should also be said that the atmosphere can be great! A lot of the people that buy tickets at Twickenham, or have season tickets simply don't follow rugby. They go to see England play at Twickenham a few times a year and that's it - I have close friends who do this - it's not conjecture. They have a loose understanding of the rules, and virtually no knowledge of their own players... let alone the opposition. I really do not think that the vast majority of people at Twickenham for England games have a very good understanding of the game or any deep emotional attachment to it. In England at least, a lot of the time a lack of atmosphere can be attributed to clubs overreaching in their choice of venue or simply poor stadium design. Look at Wasps or Irish, they play in half empty stadiums for the entire season. Wasps in particular suffer from their lack of a proper, appropriate home ground. In my opinion they are the only premiership "London..." club deserving of their name - them and Harlequins are the two Urban London clubs. They moved away from their core home support base at a time when they should have been consolidating what they had and taking advantage of the enormous (and extremely affluent) local populace. On top of that they moved to a ****-hole stadium. The best atmospheres are found at clubs that have not moved around: Quins, Gloucester, Tigers, Saints and Chiefs for example. On top of that the design of stadiums is generally poor IMO. Seats are generally too far away and the stands feel too open. The field should feel enveloped by the crowd. The middle class nature of the sport in England doesn't help with regards to crowd "rowdiness" but this is of minor significance IMO. Too many clubs have not had the stability needed to foster strong emotional ties with their fans. [/QUOTE]
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