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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 469001" data-attributes="member: 42330"><p>First off, I might be overreacting, I accept this - I strongly believe that the game needs an extended period without rules changes.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, as JW points out, the main thrust of my argument involves the reduced reward for penalties at least as much as the improved reward for conversions. The percentage value of the conversion is more or less irrelevant to how much teams will run it (although personally I'd rather bias success towards tries rather than achieving the kick anyway) - the point is that if infringing is cheap and tries are dear, then the various ruck shenigans become that much more worthwhile. Which produces slow ball and scrappy possession (unless the ref is in top of it) which produces ugly rugby. The rules of rucking have changed so much since the last changes I find it difficult to draw comparisions.</p><p></p><p>Who knows, I could be wrong. But it seems a very obvious route for some teams to take.</p><p></p><p>@Cymro - Hah, fair point. But less crooked. I don't think I've ever seen one feed a ball direct into the second row in the old videos. Maybe I'm wrong mind. The point is, the average rugby player will take every advantage given to him if the rules suddenly go lax. Gods knows most of the hookers I've met fall into that category. They'd definitley throw squint if they thought they could get away with it.</p><p></p><p>Jayatron - What about if the defending scrum deliberately wheels it past ninety? Or players start to unbind before the scrum is done?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peat, post: 469001, member: 42330"] First off, I might be overreacting, I accept this - I strongly believe that the game needs an extended period without rules changes. Secondly, as JW points out, the main thrust of my argument involves the reduced reward for penalties at least as much as the improved reward for conversions. The percentage value of the conversion is more or less irrelevant to how much teams will run it (although personally I'd rather bias success towards tries rather than achieving the kick anyway) - the point is that if infringing is cheap and tries are dear, then the various ruck shenigans become that much more worthwhile. Which produces slow ball and scrappy possession (unless the ref is in top of it) which produces ugly rugby. The rules of rucking have changed so much since the last changes I find it difficult to draw comparisions. Who knows, I could be wrong. But it seems a very obvious route for some teams to take. @Cymro - Hah, fair point. But less crooked. I don't think I've ever seen one feed a ball direct into the second row in the old videos. Maybe I'm wrong mind. The point is, the average rugby player will take every advantage given to him if the rules suddenly go lax. Gods knows most of the hookers I've met fall into that category. They'd definitley throw squint if they thought they could get away with it. Jayatron - What about if the defending scrum deliberately wheels it past ninety? Or players start to unbind before the scrum is done? [/QUOTE]
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