Discussion in 'International Test Matches' started by The Alpha Bro, Oct 10, 2018.
Three matches, in consecutive weeks v three RC sides... Jesus Christ no.
If there is no promotion/relegation then this will be dreadful for tier 2 nations
Please God no. So bad on so many levels. At the very least though the NH unions are smart enough to vote this down.
absolutely. It already is for tier 2 nations.
Let's face it some unions are scared of the prospect of relegation. Ask the French union. They're ******** in their pants at the thought it. They know they may face relegation eventually. Better though than the absurdly weighted point system currently used.
Why don’t the July and November fixtures come together as one set of 7 weeks, in September and October, replicating the World Cup. This creates a regular calendar spot for all internationals.
A 4 year cycle could then be put in place for this list, including RWC & Lions Tour.
The ‘middle’ 2 seasons, could be the World League, following the UEFA Nations League format.
League A 2 groups of 3 (based on WR ranking) play a home and away series, with a final between the group winners. Bottom team in each group relegated for next series.
League A, group 1, NZ, England, SA Group 2, Ireland, Wales, Australia (winners to finals, 3rd place relegated)
League B, group 1, Scotland, Fiji, Japan, Group 2, France, Argentina, Tonga, (winners promoted, 3rd place relegated)
League C, group 1, USA, Samoa, Romania, group 2, Italy, Georgia, Uruguay. (Matches played in for me country to save expenses)
1) NZ v England, Australia v Wales, Fiji v Japan, Tonga v France
2) NZ v SA, Australia v Ireland, Fiji v Scotland, Tonga v Argentina
3) SA v England, Ireland v Wales, Japan v Scotland, Argentina v France
4) SA v NZ, Wales v Ireland, Japan v Fiji, Argentina v Tonga
5) England v SA, Wales v Australia, Scotland v Fiji, France v Argentina
6) England v NZ, Ireland v Australia, Scotland v Japan, France v Tonga
i just dont think we need a new comp (although im keen for some change).
All we need to is make every team other than the hosts and champions have to qualify for the world cup. over the three years between world cups all teams will have to play a whole swath of teir 1 and 2 nations home and away with something actually on the line.
currently it seems only the tier 2 nations have these kind of important games.
It would probably make little difference to the teams that make it but there'll be a good smattering of important games over that 3 years and the tier 2 teams will get more experience over that period so may be better prepared for the RWC proper
Yeah this change won't help anyone except for two Tier 2 teams. The current system works perfectly well the two most common complaints are that
There are two many games between certain Tier 1 countries
The Tier 2 teams don't get enough games against the top teams
A relatively obvious solution would be for Tier 1 teams to have a minimum amount of games they play against Tier 2 teams over a certain period, eg 2 games a year or maybe 6/7 over a WC cycle. Right now most teams play 1 a year at most and it's just not enough for these teams to develop.
The other obvious solution would be to make everyone qualify for the wc which would be really hard to organise but if it was done well it could do wonders for the sport. Not sure that I'd trust World Rugby to be able to draw it up properly though.
not sure if you're agreeing with me or not, you say at the start that it wont help but then at the end more or less replicate what i say...
Yeah I'm agreeing with you, at the start I was talking about the proposed League of Nations, should have been clearer sorry.
OH! i can see that now, we got there in the end
That is by far the biggest negative in my opinion. Logistically it's a bit of a nightmare for any tour that isn't a combination of Oz + NZ + PI (playing in Oz).
I've not read the L'Equipe article. Proposal for three leagues of 12 teams, negotiations not going smoothly.
The IRFU will be dead set against anything that'll stop the 2022 tour of NZ I'd imagine.
Think the idea of 4 group of 3 in each division with finals would work.
For example group 1D could be England, South Africa, USA
1) South Africa v USA
2) South Africa v England
3) USA v England
1) USA v South Africa
2) England v USA
3) England v South Africa
Group winners qualify for finals, 3rd place relegated to Div 2
Ideally this would happen in the middle of a Workd Cup cycle and only happen every 4 yrs.
I would also like the international season to be played in one block August to end October, including 6N, but this would never happen.
I really don't see the need for this, just make sure it's not the same countries playing against each other all the time, especially several times in a row. That's what's making me lose interest in the internationals.
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