marshall leeds or quins

Discussion in 'General Rugby Union' started by mark_shaw, Jan 9, 2006.

  1. mark_shaw

    mark_shaw Guest

    in the nz herald today there was an article about how marshall could switch over if leeds get relagated but then there was a quote from the leeds guy sayng he wont let marhsall go anywhere for at lease another year :S
     
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  3. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    It's a joke when players jump ship if there's a risk of relegation. He knew the risk by joining Leeds so he should face the conciquences.

    Besides, if he wen't to Quins he wouldn't play as they already have Mhertens.
     
  4. harrison2468

    harrison2468 Guest

    He is applying for South African nationality, meaning he won't be a foreign player.
     
  5. Merthts is getting an SA passport. Problem solved.

    Hopefully Leeds go down, Quins come up, they try scrapping relegation for a couple of seasons, and we have a Prem full of proper teams.
     
  6. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    I thought the rule said they have to be a capped South African otherwise they have to naff off after 18 months?
     
  7. Don't think so. For some reason unknown to most normal people SA players don't count as overseas.
     
  8. harrison2468

    harrison2468 Guest

    No way is that fair. Either expand the Premiership or keep it as it is. The season would be boring if there was nothing to play for. Relegation is exciting, and brings the crowds in. Plus, if Leeds go down, they will fall apart, and take a few years to come back up.
     
  9. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    What about the reason Wyle Human had to go home - He wasn't capped and only got an 18 month visa.
     
  10. Fine expand it to 14 team, bring up a couple of worthy clubs, leave Leeds where they are and see how it goes.

    Their stadium is rubbish, their fans are rubbish, and their team are crap. The Prem would look much better with Quins in their place.
     
  11. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    14 clubs are far too many. It'll get to the point where players are playing twice a week, which is far too much for a game as physical as rugby. Players are getting burned out as it is.
     
  12. who said you have to play a team twice f***. The NFL plays 16 games a season and their are 32 teams in the league. Offcourse they do draw 70,000 fans a game :p
     
  13. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    Whoop-de-f***in-do-dah for them.
     
  14. whoopdee f***ing do is right as the National Football League is the most successfully run league in the world and is one of only five leagues that draw over 30,000 fans a game on avg

    Guinness Premiership Rugby union England 2004-05 132 1,282,743 9,718 guinnesspremiership.com


    NFL American football United States 2005 256 17,270,486 67,463 kenn.com

    The problem with relegation is it has the potential of hurting big clubs which are what really makes the game what it is Imagine a club like Leicester or Gloucester going down in this era the drop would be devastating sure the Quins are going to bounce right back up but thats not the case for every club and relegation will only hurt clubs.

    My idea would be scrap the Powergen Cup crap, cut league games down to 18 + Heineken Cup and increase league size when a team in division one earns the right for promotion.

    Oh and make a new playoff system. This whole Wildcard crap sucks a lot of cock. Top 6 teams qualify for playoffs with the top 2 getting a bye to the semis other four play each other then move onto round 2.

    Cutting the Powergen cup would give so much more leeway to the season tis not even funny
     
  15. mark_shaw

    mark_shaw Guest

    samoans dont count has forein players lol wat the funk
     
  16. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    It's because of the Kolpak ruling stating that workers from around 100 countries who have trade agreements with the EU are now protected by European employment laws.

    The court decision was based upon the idea that no resident of the European Union should be prevented from working in another part of the EU. Specifically the case meant that, in professional sports, if a sporting club chose a player who resided in the EU, then there could be no law preventing this.

    Kolpak was a Solvakian handball player who wanted to play in Germany but not be classed as a foreigner (this was prior to Slovakia joining the EU)

    This has allowed English cricket Counties to have more than one overseas player.
     
  17. yeah, havent you ever seen the all blacks? [​IMG]
     
  18. mark_shaw

    mark_shaw Guest

    is there a law in nz with the forein player thing..
     
  19. harrison2468

    harrison2468 Guest

    My suggestion would be to increase the size to 15 teams, and have a Super12 style format, except with 14 games. Keep the Powergen, but change the format to a FA Cup style. Make the 'big' teams come into the cup at a certain point, having the games played in the early rounds with Divison 3 teams. Getting rid of this group crap and make it knock-out would cut a few pointless games. Also, we could keep the Welsh teams in the comp if revenue is an issue. [​IMG]

    I reckon this would cut off about 8-9 weeks, perfect for FREE weekends during the 6N. Also, keep the play-off but only top 4, Wildcard is pointless.
     
  20. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

    I like the idea of the super 14 format, however would the club owners go for it considering their loss in revenue? Doubt it.

    Would also be worth considering if the top 3 Italian teams are to be invited into the Celtic League.
     
  21. harrison2468

    harrison2468 Guest

    The problem is that I can't think of a single situation where one party is not negatively affected. However, player burn-out is a big issue, and needs to be dealt with properly and ideally, as soon as possible.

    The club owners will not get as much revenue as there will be less home games, but I suppose all their best players will be available, which may add a few fans on. An agreement between the RFU and the clubs should be really a priority, but thtey don't really like speaking to each other that much... [​IMG]

    Of course, if the stupid RFU relised the advantages of central contracts years ago, then many problems wouldn't be here today.
     
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