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<blockquote data-quote="Arcturus" data-source="post: 1104225" data-attributes="member: 85747"><p>I did get a chuckle. Did Leicester breaking the cap mean that they also have blood on their hands? Do Leinster and the big French sides with their extraordinary spending power also share some of the blame? Nobody is forcing these clubs to spend as much as possible and breaking the cap – as demonstrated by Leicester – doesn't correlate with success.</p><p></p><p>The salary cap review of Saracens was up to and including the 2018-19 season which over three seasons ago now, during which Saracens weren't even present in the Premiership.</p><p></p><p>The sad reality is that Worcester were run by cowboys (if there was a fit and proper test this would have been weeded out), whilst Wasps treated the club like a NFL franchise and moved not once but twice away from its traditional base, becoming burdened by unsustainable debts (<u>in excess of £100mn</u> by some accounts). Where did all that CVC money go? The DCMS pandemic loans? The Saracens fine money?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Most clubs in England have varying degrees of success with academy outputs, but the underlying success behind Saracens and Exeter is that they have developed the most comprehensive academy systems in England. Part of the contradiction of developing international-grade players though is that with the overlap of the international fixtures, it puts such clubs at a disadvantage on and off the pitch. I recall reading a while back that the RFU compensation package perversely allocated money to clubs that didn't even commit England players. Hence the rise in southern hemisphere players who are available to play more frequently in domestic and European competitions; Leicester have 15 on their senior payroll, Harlequins 10. Wasps had 5, Saracens 4 and Worcester 3.</p><p></p><p>Rugby needs a complete overhaul.</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The pandemic provided a missed opportunity to realign the domestic and international calendars, but it should still materialise; football doesn't dilute focus and attention.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">A 10-team Premiership (Bath getting the chop based on their consistently poor form in recent years) and 10-team Premiership 2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">A fit and proper test of all existing and future owners/shareholders</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">A cap (to be phased in over 3 seasons) on southern hemisphere and/or non-England qualified players and/or reduced cap or penalties (distributed to the other clubs, points deduction) for too many non-England qualified players</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">If the international/domestic calendars can't be segregated then there needs to be a greater compensation solution particularly for clubs that don't produce many academy products (possibly paid by the other clubs rather than the RFU)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Complete oversight of club finances covering (more than remuneration) to ensure that clubs are solvent and have a viable business plan for 'x' number of future seasons – this would have gone someway to addressing the mid-season fallout that the entire league is now experiencing with Wasps/Worcester</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Premiership Ruby Cup becomes a Premiership youth/player recovery Vs Premiership 2 competition</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Ditch the stadium capacity promotion requirement (that works against Jersey, Ealing, etc…), especially when so many teams are struggling with attendances at the moment</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">More Showdown/Big Game style events to further boost the profile of the game</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Cap/lottery on international ticket fixtures</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Speeding the game up<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">10-seconds to take penalties/conversions</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">penalties for time-wasting (I'm seeing far too many instances where fatiguing teams take an age to form for a line out)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">reworking the scrum – it is a mess for casual viewers to understand what is going on – possibly with fewer players, a limit on resets, etc…</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">a longer half-time break (player welfare and also for fans to </li> </ol></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Better engagement with fans in the stadium<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">more stats/in-game information on the big screens – perhaps sacrifice one of the digital advertising boards for some detail</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">if you can't see the ref you have no idea what an infringement was for</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">do we really need stadium screens showing "respect the kicker"; I want to see the kick or a replay</li> </ol></li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arcturus, post: 1104225, member: 85747"] I did get a chuckle. Did Leicester breaking the cap mean that they also have blood on their hands? Do Leinster and the big French sides with their extraordinary spending power also share some of the blame? Nobody is forcing these clubs to spend as much as possible and breaking the cap – as demonstrated by Leicester – doesn't correlate with success. The salary cap review of Saracens was up to and including the 2018-19 season which over three seasons ago now, during which Saracens weren't even present in the Premiership. The sad reality is that Worcester were run by cowboys (if there was a fit and proper test this would have been weeded out), whilst Wasps treated the club like a NFL franchise and moved not once but twice away from its traditional base, becoming burdened by unsustainable debts ([u]in excess of £100mn[/u] by some accounts). Where did all that CVC money go? The DCMS pandemic loans? The Saracens fine money? Most clubs in England have varying degrees of success with academy outputs, but the underlying success behind Saracens and Exeter is that they have developed the most comprehensive academy systems in England. Part of the contradiction of developing international-grade players though is that with the overlap of the international fixtures, it puts such clubs at a disadvantage on and off the pitch. I recall reading a while back that the RFU compensation package perversely allocated money to clubs that didn't even commit England players. Hence the rise in southern hemisphere players who are available to play more frequently in domestic and European competitions; Leicester have 15 on their senior payroll, Harlequins 10. Wasps had 5, Saracens 4 and Worcester 3. Rugby needs a complete overhaul. [LIST=1] [*]The pandemic provided a missed opportunity to realign the domestic and international calendars, but it should still materialise; football doesn't dilute focus and attention. [*]A 10-team Premiership (Bath getting the chop based on their consistently poor form in recent years) and 10-team Premiership 2 [*]A fit and proper test of all existing and future owners/shareholders [*]A cap (to be phased in over 3 seasons) on southern hemisphere and/or non-England qualified players and/or reduced cap or penalties (distributed to the other clubs, points deduction) for too many non-England qualified players [*]If the international/domestic calendars can't be segregated then there needs to be a greater compensation solution particularly for clubs that don't produce many academy products (possibly paid by the other clubs rather than the RFU) [*]Complete oversight of club finances covering (more than remuneration) to ensure that clubs are solvent and have a viable business plan for 'x' number of future seasons – this would have gone someway to addressing the mid-season fallout that the entire league is now experiencing with Wasps/Worcester [*]Premiership Ruby Cup becomes a Premiership youth/player recovery Vs Premiership 2 competition [*]Ditch the stadium capacity promotion requirement (that works against Jersey, Ealing, etc…), especially when so many teams are struggling with attendances at the moment [*]More Showdown/Big Game style events to further boost the profile of the game [*]Cap/lottery on international ticket fixtures [*]Speeding the game up [LIST=1] [*]10-seconds to take penalties/conversions [*]penalties for time-wasting (I'm seeing far too many instances where fatiguing teams take an age to form for a line out) [*]reworking the scrum – it is a mess for casual viewers to understand what is going on – possibly with fewer players, a limit on resets, etc… [*]a longer half-time break (player welfare and also for fans to [/LIST] [*]Better engagement with fans in the stadium [LIST=1] [*]more stats/in-game information on the big screens – perhaps sacrifice one of the digital advertising boards for some detail [*]if you can't see the ref you have no idea what an infringement was for [*]do we really need stadium screens showing "respect the kicker"; I want to see the kick or a replay [/LIST] [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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