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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 1006512" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>My criteria is quite simple: Folau condemned people he "disagreed with" to hell. Lets put some meat to the bone here, for argument's sake. Hell, as in the hell Foaul condensed people to, is an imaginary place that only exists if and only if you share his belief system. If you dont, you are free to disregard his belief, saying, the lot and move along. He is in no way incentivizing people to physically harm anyone. You can even call Folau's god a farce, a disgrace, an impostor and (arguably) his response will be the same: you will burn in hell. I think Folau is an idiot, but i am fine with the above. I don't like it but a) i believe he has and should have the right to believe that and b) from a practical perspective i don't think banning what he says is going to change what he thinks, believes or feels, which is the heart of the issue here. </p><p></p><p>And, and here is the kicker, he said nothing about disfiguring people's faces in this life. </p><p></p><p>The difference, in my book, is nor minor, nor subtle nor irrelevant. Quite the contrary. I would be willing to argue for him had he said something along the lines "he will receive his punishment from god" or something like that. You could argue something along the same lines of what i did regarding Folau above. </p><p>But no, he was very, very specific about the type of punishment (quite an earthly one) and when. That was no accident. </p><p></p><p>What worries me is that i am not convinced he is part of a minority here. Did you guys read what the PM from Malaysia posted? And the replies. Not from anonymous accounts with 3 followers. </p><p>Mental, psychiatric ward material. </p><p>Anyway, i digress.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 1006512, member: 55747"] My criteria is quite simple: Folau condemned people he "disagreed with" to hell. Lets put some meat to the bone here, for argument's sake. Hell, as in the hell Foaul condensed people to, is an imaginary place that only exists if and only if you share his belief system. If you dont, you are free to disregard his belief, saying, the lot and move along. He is in no way incentivizing people to physically harm anyone. You can even call Folau's god a farce, a disgrace, an impostor and (arguably) his response will be the same: you will burn in hell. I think Folau is an idiot, but i am fine with the above. I don't like it but a) i believe he has and should have the right to believe that and b) from a practical perspective i don't think banning what he says is going to change what he thinks, believes or feels, which is the heart of the issue here. And, and here is the kicker, he said nothing about disfiguring people's faces in this life. The difference, in my book, is nor minor, nor subtle nor irrelevant. Quite the contrary. I would be willing to argue for him had he said something along the lines "he will receive his punishment from god" or something like that. You could argue something along the same lines of what i did regarding Folau above. But no, he was very, very specific about the type of punishment (quite an earthly one) and when. That was no accident. What worries me is that i am not convinced he is part of a minority here. Did you guys read what the PM from Malaysia posted? And the replies. Not from anonymous accounts with 3 followers. Mental, psychiatric ward material. Anyway, i digress. [/QUOTE]
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