Most Overated Players

Discussion in 'Super Rugby' started by QLD, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. QLD

    QLD Guest

    Which players have been average at best this season?

    Kurtley Beale, Lote Tuqiri and Timana Tawho for mine. Beale won't be getting a Wallaby jumper this season for sure and Tahu doesn't deserve one yet will manage to get one because he's the big league convert we have invested $500k a season for. Lote's been shithouse for a few years now despite being the highest paid player in Australia at $1.2million. Tuqiri will hang onto his mortgage on the 11 jersey though there will be about 10 other Australian wingers that are better than him.

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  3. tommowins

    tommowins Guest

    Your're gonna get an earful from some Waratahs fans
     
  4. Maccaweeny

    Maccaweeny Guest

    A team full of overrated misfits that still manages to beat the exciting and talented Reds. Look to your own backyard before you criticise ours (i.e Quade Cooper). When your burgeoning talent actually starts to play consistent and competitive rugby i'll listen to your sour grapes.

    Edit: I actually agree with your assessment of Timana and Beale, it's just there are so many disappointments in Australian rugby atm I don't know why you're singling out the Waratahs, who have been doing alright
     
  5. Wally

    Wally Guest

    Mate the Waratahs are f**king terrible. I know the Reds have a lot yet to prove, but you can see the effort they have put into playing a hard, fast game is starting to pay dividends. New South Wales on the other hand have been mostly hopeless this season, even in the games they have won. I'd say they are suffering from some pretty average coaching, as there are quality players all over the park, but something is defiantly going a miss with them at the moment. That performance against Canterbury was cringeworthy. A city with 4 million people that boasts a strong rugby fanbase and a side in the top four should not be struggling with crowds, but it is, and that tells the real story.
     
  6. Woldog

    Woldog Guest

    Maccaweeney, you make a mistake in thinking that all Reds supporters think Quade Cooper is any good, half the people I know including myself think he is a joke.
     
  7. Maccaweeny

    Maccaweeny Guest

    And Dale makes the mistake of thinking that NSW supporters rate Beale/Tahu, Lote is another kettle of fish, he has earned his stripes. I will definitely concede that the Waratahs are not heading in the right direction. They played ugly rugby last season but still tried new things in the backs. The Waratahs seem all too happy to give the opposition the ball in their own half through poorly executed box and field kicks.

    The Reds have had one emphatic win, and good on them for it. Though it's too early in the season to say if their style will continue to pay dividends, you also really need Horwill back. I'm not discounting the Reds, i'm only pointing out that the phenomenon of having overrated and disappointing players is by no means exclusive to the Waratahs, so singling them out merely because one has an axe to grind seems pointless.
     
  8. Wally

    Wally Guest

    I'm tight like Nathan and Aaron Mauger, do it first talk later.
     
  9. William18

    William18 Guest

    I would say Cory Jane would be the most overated played who i have ever seen. Honestly, has a stupider person ever taken to the rugby field? Personally, I doubt it.
     
  10. ChiefsFan

    ChiefsFan Guest

    Victor Vito.

    I'm not saying he's not alright, I'm just saying that anyone who touted him as the next Jonah Lomu is an idiot.
     
  11. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    Here are my list of overrated players:

    From Australia:

    - Ryan Cross (I have never seen him do anything special. Crap imho)
    - Nathan Sharpe

    From New Zealand:

    - Rodney S 'oialo (SP?) Sorry, but i don't think the guy is in the same league as other 8's in this competition.
    - Corey Jane
    - Brad Thorn

    From South Africa:

    - Zane Kirchner (Worst player ever. I don't know how he is even in that team...)
    - Gideon Steggman (The Bull's number 6 is an idiot)
    - JP Nel (Abomination)
    - Percy Montgomerie (Sorry, but it's time to go)
    - Gcobani Bobo (*vommit)
    - Both Ndungane wings (Too slow, and they just don't have the skill)


    Cant think of anyone else right now. Oh, and if anyone mentions Francois Steyn as overrated, then i think you guys are idiots. I reckon he broke Valentine's rib with that kick. B)
     
  12. QLD

    QLD Guest

    Stephen Donald from the Chiefs is useless, how does he keep getting the starting spot at flyhalf.
     
  13. Nah Donalds a good attacking fly half, just not the best kicker.
     
  14. tommowins

    tommowins Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Mar 23 2009, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    He had a good season last year.

    On my list would be Hosea Gear. Everyone says he will be the next All Black winger, personally I think Masaga is better.
     
  15. Tomsey

    Tomsey Guest

    i can't understand why so many rugby followers think lote tuqiri is over rated. he has played nearly 80 super rugby matches and won 64 caps for the wallabies and after most of them someone, somewhere has called him over rated. hasn't it ever occured to them that if he was over rated he probably would not have still be playing for the wallabies and waratahs.
    i think tuqiri is in the top three wingers in austalia at the moment based on form. sure he doesn't score a try every time he touches the ball but who does. he attracts multiple defenders when ever he has the ball and lets not forget that all the international and super rugby experience he has must count for something. i don't see how anyone can legitimately say he doesn't deserve his wallabies jersey...
     
  16. KZNSharksFan

    KZNSharksFan Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tomsey @ Mar 25 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Its quite easy, he doesn't deserve to wear his nana's woolen jersey let alone a wallabies jersey. He has barely any influence on the game, he can't really kick and he doesn't score tries nowadays either. He isn't the running powerhouse he was a while ago and certainly doesn't attract more defenders than his inside players. He's simply there because the ARU have to justify their stupid decision to fork out millions to keep him in union, and there isn't anyone really bashing down the door at the waratahs in competition for his position.
     
  17. Maccaweeny

    Maccaweeny Guest

    Yeah there is, his cousin Ratu Nasiganiyavi may apply some pressure when he recovers from (i think) an ankle injury suffered in pre-season. Everyone harps on about him mainly because he is a huge black man, but he performed well in u 20's and for Randwick.

    Tuqiri isn't as good as he used to be, but he's still a very reliable player. It was his running in broken play that sparked a try in both the Perth and Sydney games of the Tri-Nations, and his defence is far superior to that of Hynes or Ioane. He also possesses a shred of discipline and restraint, something Ioane lacks. I like Ioane's physicality but he really needs to stop leaking penalties.
     
  18. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    I forgot AJ Venter. He's kak.
     
  19. Agreed complete rubbish.

    Here goes..

    Australia

    Beale, awful player
    Palu
    Not so much overated but that Tom Carter is a real fool, always looks like hes going to cry
    Burgess
    Sharpe
    This might cause a bit of controversy but i would say Giteau is a bit overated, class player no doubt but hes certainly not on Carters level like many make him out to be.

    South Africa

    Steyn,garbage
    Conradie, if anyone rates him, hes rubbish
    Sephaka, useless lump
    Willemse, weak and not particularily fast
    Habana

    New Zealand

    Nonu
    Cowan
    Ellis
    Laulala
     
  20. Bull

    Bull Guest

    Schalk Burger
    Bryan Habana
    Juan Smith
    John Smit
    Peter Grant
    JP Pietersen
    Frans Steyn
    Adrian Jacobs
    Bolla Conradie
    Ricky Januarie
     
  21. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bull @ Mar 26 2009, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    That's what i think anyway...
     
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